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Posted by MoodyB on 01-21-2003 01:03 PM:

Lighting

Hey all,

I might be alone in this opinion,but would it be possible in TBP to double-up on the main light in the game engine?

I've always felt that,as good as TBP looks the ships never look quite as ` bright ` as they maybe should ( you could throw this argument at Freespace1/2 as well ).

I'm not talking about `dayglow` bright,but just making the main light stronger.

What brought this on was I just looked at some recent FreeLancer pics,and thought to myself that it doesnt look as good as it maybe should.Looks quite good,but not 3 years worth of tech dev over TBP and FS2.Still a bit flat looking,which led me to think about the strength of the lighting.

Is this possible or would it have to be done in the main engine rather than FRED?


Posted by MoodyB on 01-21-2003 01:03 PM:

Lighting

Hey all,

I might be alone in this opinion,but would it be possible in TBP to double-up on the main light in the game engine?

I've always felt that,as good as TBP looks the ships never look quite as ` bright ` as they maybe should ( you could throw this argument at Freespace1/2 as well ).

I'm not talking about `dayglow` bright,but just making the main light stronger.

What brought this on was I just looked at some recent FreeLancer pics,and thought to myself that it doesnt look as good as it maybe should.Looks quite good,but not 3 years worth of tech dev over TBP and FS2.Still a bit flat looking,which led me to think about the strength of the lighting.

Is this possible or would it have to be done in the main engine rather than FRED?


Posted by -Norbert- on 01-21-2003 01:10 PM:

I don't know if it helps, but you can try to make a bigger sun.


Posted by -Norbert- on 01-21-2003 01:10 PM:

I don't know if it helps, but you can try to make a bigger sun.


Posted by ltnarol on 01-21-2003 02:06 PM:

Just put 2 suns in one mission, place them both in the same location with the same orientation.

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Posted by FSF Ashrak on 01-21-2003 02:26 PM:

OR you copuld turn the GAMMA settings higher

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Posted by Ashark on 01-21-2003 02:26 PM:

OR you copuld turn the GAMMA settings higher

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Posted by IceFire on 01-21-2003 02:47 PM:

Turn up the brightness...that usually works for me. We've intentionally gone dark on the ambient lighting because it looks a whole lot better.

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Posted by BabProj Team on 01-21-2003 02:47 PM:

Turn up the brightness...that usually works for me. We've intentionally gone dark on the ambient lighting because it looks a whole lot better.

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Posted by MoodyB on 01-21-2003 02:52 PM:

Thanks for the replys guys.


Icefire:

I agree that space looks better with less ambient,but I meant the strength of the sun, which would help make the areas that are lit a bit more intense.Sometimes it looks a bit flat because there isn't enough contrast between light and dark.

I'll play about with FRED later and see what I can come up with ( never used it before! )


Posted by MoodyB on 01-21-2003 02:52 PM:

Thanks for the replys guys.


Icefire:

I agree that space looks better with less ambient,but I meant the strength of the sun, which would help make the areas that are lit a bit more intense.Sometimes it looks a bit flat because there isn't enough contrast between light and dark.

I'll play about with FRED later and see what I can come up with ( never used it before! )


Posted by FSF Ashrak on 01-21-2003 04:22 PM:

the suns only give ambient light......

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Posted by Ashark on 01-21-2003 04:22 PM:

the suns only give ambient light......

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Posted by MoodyB on 01-21-2003 05:36 PM:

what is it that controls the main light source then?


Posted by Mewgen1 on 01-21-2003 06:45 PM:

It may be a bit OT but the gamma controls in my copy of freesapce don't work. It really kind of sucks because all of the briefing animations are so dark that I can barely see them. Has anybody ever had this problem?

I'm running a GeForce 2 MX 400.

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Posted by Mewgen1 on 01-21-2003 06:45 PM:

It may be a bit OT but the gamma controls in my copy of freesapce don't work. It really kind of sucks because all of the briefing animations are so dark that I can barely see them. Has anybody ever had this problem?

I'm running a GeForce 2 MX 400.

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Posted by IceFire on 01-21-2003 10:20 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Mewgen1
It may be a bit OT but the gamma controls in my copy of freesapce don't work. It really kind of sucks because all of the briefing animations are so dark that I can barely see them. Has anybody ever had this problem?

I'm running a GeForce 2 MX 400.


You'll need to use the nVidia drivers to modify the gamma correction, your right they don't work in game.

There is no main light source. The sun casts a glow on one side of the vessel. Our ambient lighting is a "negative" sun. Aside from that, its just a gamma value. As far as I know anyways, it may be something different in the code...

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Posted by BabProj Team on 01-21-2003 10:20 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Mewgen1
It may be a bit OT but the gamma controls in my copy of freesapce don't work. It really kind of sucks because all of the briefing animations are so dark that I can barely see them. Has anybody ever had this problem?

I'm running a GeForce 2 MX 400.


You'll need to use the nVidia drivers to modify the gamma correction, your right they don't work in game.

There is no main light source. The sun casts a glow on one side of the vessel. Our ambient lighting is a "negative" sun. Aside from that, its just a gamma value. As far as I know anyways, it may be something different in the code...

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Posted by Hades on 01-22-2003 02:35 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Mewgen1
It may be a bit OT but the gamma controls in my copy of freesapce don't work. It really kind of sucks because all of the briefing animations are so dark that I can barely see them. Has anybody ever had this problem?

I'm running a GeForce 2 MX 400.




I have that problem on my dad's Gateway comp. I think it's just the monitor, but he won't let me screw with it because he likes it that way.

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Posted by Hades on 01-22-2003 02:35 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Mewgen1
It may be a bit OT but the gamma controls in my copy of freesapce don't work. It really kind of sucks because all of the briefing animations are so dark that I can barely see them. Has anybody ever had this problem?

I'm running a GeForce 2 MX 400.




I have that problem on my dad's Gateway comp. I think it's just the monitor, but he won't let me screw with it because he likes it that way.

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