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Posted by ThresholdRPG on 02-24-2003 08:36 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by aldo_14

Think of it this way - how many movies or albums get recalled and altered by their creators as a result of customer feedback? That's the way I feel the console market will go. i'm not saying it's a good thing - it's just what I can see happening in future as consoles become more and more mass market.

You cannot compare a FIXED product with an INTERACTIVE product.

Furthermore, the issue here has nothing to do with recalling products.

It is a simple reality of gaming: the companies who make an effort to build a community around their franchises do incredibly well. Those who do not simply sputter about.

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Posted by ThresholdRPG on 02-24-2003 08:39 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Remora

We are happy for you ... what puzzles me is why you're concerning yourself with other corporations' policies (and hence, your COMPETITION) when you have your own to run.

I'll edit whatever I need to ... and you presume too much when you claim ownership to anything on this site. Read the [url=http://www.volitionwatch.com/vwbb/register.php?action=aug]user agreement[/url].

Once again, I will state the obvious to the rest of us because you seem to be uninformed.

1) This is *NOT* Volition's bulletin board.
2) Volition does *NOT* have to read this board, or "support" anything ... they are a dev studio, THQ takes care of the PR stuff.
3) Feel lucky that we, Volition Watch, have good relations with some Volition employees ... and hence, they post here.
4) Don't make assumptions about my intentions. You break the [url=http://www.volitionwatch.com/vwbb/register.php?action=rules]rules[/url] (see #3), I ban you. Consider this your warning.

And finally, your questions have been answered cleanly and concisely. Move on.

Firstly, Volition is not my competition. I make online, RP required, multiplayer RPGs.

Second, we've been over that this is not Volition's message board.

Third, yes it is your forum. But editing the titles of threads other people made, when the title did *NOT* violate any rules of the forum is heavy handed moderatorship that is really inappropriate for any *DISCUSSION* forum.

Fourth, what assumption about anyone's intentions did I make? What rule did I break?

Fifth, lets remember the whole PURPOSE of this thread:

I love their games.

I want them to sell MORE copies.

I want them to make MORE money.

The problem I see is they make no effort to build community around their franchises.

By comparison, companies that DO build community around their franchses (Blizzard, Bioware, Square, etc.) do unbelieveably well.

You seem to think I am flaming, when I am not.

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Posted by aldo_14 on 02-24-2003 03:13 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ThresholdRPG

You cannot compare a FIXED product with an INTERACTIVE product.

I'm comparing mass market entertainment products. The relative interactivity (or not) in not important here. In fact, you could say that altering music / movies / etc is even more important than in games becuase the user has no other way of altering it. In games, at least, you can try playing in different ways.

I'd say it's more PC gaming that's community orientated - I'm not aware of any major communities around most the 'giants' of console gaming,who sell to a massive amount more people than PC manufacturers do.... i.e. Rockstar.

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Posted by Remora on 02-24-2003 03:59 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ThresholdRPG
You seem to think I am flaming, when I am not.

No, I think you are TROLLING ... which is expressly forbidden by #3.

And again, I changed the title because I decided it should be changed. Read the User Agreement, which allows such things to happen.

Posted by ThresholdRPG on 02-24-2003 09:46 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Remora

No, I think you are TROLLING ... which is expressly forbidden by #3.

Um....... How is this trolling?

I *gush* with praise and thanks for the games they make, and include a serious suggestion regarding the one weakness I feel they have.

That is trolling? HOW????

quote:
Originally posted by ThresholdRPG

I love their games.

I want them to sell MORE copies.

I want them to make MORE money.

The problem I see is they make no effort to build community around their franchises.

*boggle*

quote:
Originally posted by Remora

And again, I changed the title because I decided it should be changed. Read the User Agreement, which allows such things to happen.

The issue is not what CAN be done but what SHOULD be done.

Editing the thread titles of someone else's thread has a "chilling effect" on discussion.

Why not post your own thread with the title you prefer? Why hijack a thread posted by someone else simply because you want to change the subject?

Can you see why that is very heavy handed moderatorship?

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Posted by Remora on 02-24-2003 10:07 PM:

and in another swift and brazen "heavy handed moderation" ... this thread gets closed. oops, my finger slipped.

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