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That would be too easy for him...

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Originally posted by ZylonBane
Snazzy! But compare to the canon model...



The side textures seem completely different, and the overall proportions of the model seem off (forward "chin" too skinny, crew compartment too far forward, engine section too long).

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That would be too easy for him...

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Originally posted by ZylonBane
Snazzy! But compare to the canon model...



The side textures seem completely different, and the overall proportions of the model seem off (forward "chin" too skinny, crew compartment too far forward, engine section too long).

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*puts on Kevlar body suit*


personally i agree with zylon.

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personally i agree with zylon.

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Just kevlar? Even a combined fleet of Sharlins and Warlocks could not stop tomcat from reaching his ultimate goal.

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*looks araund*

wheres Lorien?

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wheres Lorien?

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Originally posted by haderak
thats why it is stated as "in progress" the textures are yet to be finished... who cares if the model has one less antenna or a face 1.5 degrees off... think you can do better? try it yourself.

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Originally posted by haderak
thats why it is stated as "in progress" the textures are yet to be finished... who cares if the model has one less antenna or a face 1.5 degrees off... think you can do better? try it yourself.

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hmmm ...should i kick his arse now? perhaps ..

YES OF COURSE I'll KICK HIM..

Canon model..hmm..from where did u go that fact that that omega is the canon model.?? actualy is not..u should check the top view of the model...there are any pipes there and are present in the show..what this means? NADA..
The textures..hmmm interesting that u mentioned this..did u actualy cheched the side parts u are talking about???what u see in "canonmodel" is complectly FLAT no lighting no nothing on them..so after u ..I should just make some grey texture over the sides just to comply to your "considere reference".

The only reference in this mode might be some captures from the show , and neither those are accurate since size proportion varies from serie and episodes..there aint an accurate Reference for this show.

And is not my model:P is Wingnuts with work of Ethernal1 and me on it. If you don't like it then make a new one only for ya ..since we are quite happy with our model.


Finally since all the Omega models varies from author to author this is our Omega what we consider that suit up our needs.

So people before making critics ..try to construct a model then texture it.

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hmmm ...should i kick his arse now? perhaps ..

YES OF COURSE I'll KICK HIM..

Canon model..hmm..from where did u go that fact that that omega is the canon model.?? actualy is not..u should check the top view of the model...there are any pipes there and are present in the show..what this means? NADA..
The textures..hmmm interesting that u mentioned this..did u actualy cheched the side parts u are talking about???what u see in "canonmodel" is complectly FLAT no lighting no nothing on them..so after u ..I should just make some grey texture over the sides just to comply to your "considere reference".

The only reference in this mode might be some captures from the show , and neither those are accurate since size proportion varies from serie and episodes..there aint an accurate Reference for this show.

And is not my model:P is Wingnuts with work of Ethernal1 and me on it. If you don't like it then make a new one only for ya ..since we are quite happy with our model.


Finally since all the Omega models varies from author to author this is our Omega what we consider that suit up our needs.

So people before making critics ..try to construct a model then texture it.

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Originally posted by tomcat
Canon model..hmm..from where did u go that fact that that omega is the canon model.?

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So people before making critics ..try to construct a model then texture it.

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Originally posted by tomcat
Canon model..hmm..from where did u go that fact that that omega is the canon model.?

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So people before making critics ..try to construct a model then texture it.

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I'm not saying anything about how the canon models actually look in the show but ZylonBane is correct that:

i) criticism can be made without needing to be a modeller, you just need a good eye and accurate references.

ii) it is better to make criticisms now rather than once everything has been released so that if the team decide changes are in order then they can be made more easily.

I'm actually intrigued by this and am going to watch Severed Dreams, No Surrender, No Retreat and Endgame to have some fun enjoying B5 (well have a quick look at the Omega Destroyers but those episodes are just so cool). I think you've done a fantastic job on the texturing tomcat and Wingnut on the mesh and this debate doesn't take anything away from that

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I'm not saying anything about how the canon models actually look in the show but ZylonBane is correct that:

i) criticism can be made without needing to be a modeller, you just need a good eye and accurate references.

ii) it is better to make criticisms now rather than once everything has been released so that if the team decide changes are in order then they can be made more easily.

I'm actually intrigued by this and am going to watch Severed Dreams, No Surrender, No Retreat and Endgame to have some fun enjoying B5 (well have a quick look at the Omega Destroyers but those episodes are just so cool). I think you've done a fantastic job on the texturing tomcat and Wingnut on the mesh and this debate doesn't take anything away from that

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Look zylonBane no one is flaming you... I always said critics are pertinent and welcome specialy when its not my model.

You can insult tomcat as you please I'm not stopping you
But we can understand the effort behind it, and there will be always limitations we must deal with. Bearing in mind that the best critics are those that suggest achievable things.
We will keep this model for now, if SC development allows it we will include a new model later on when most ships have been donne.

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Look zylonBane no one is flaming you... I always said critics are pertinent and welcome specialy when its not my model.

You can insult tomcat as you please I'm not stopping you
But we can understand the effort behind it, and there will be always limitations we must deal with. Bearing in mind that the best critics are those that suggest achievable things.
We will keep this model for now, if SC development allows it we will include a new model later on when most ships have been donne.

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Originally posted by Triggy
i) criticism can be made without needing to be a modeller, you just need a good eye and accurate references.

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Originally posted by Triggy
ii) it is better to make criticisms now rather than once everything has been released so that if the team decide changes are in order then they can be made more easily.

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Originally posted by Triggy
i) criticism can be made without needing to be a modeller, you just need a good eye and accurate references.

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Originally posted by Triggy
ii) it is better to make criticisms now rather than once everything has been released so that if the team decide changes are in order then they can be made more easily.

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tomcat - I'm afraid that you're just plain wrong when you say that people are not entitled to opinions, that's one of the very concepts of being human and being capable of rational thought. Nobody said that you have to respect these opinions let alone even listen to them but people are going to have them regardless!

Any comments that are positive about the textures (such as the ones I've had) have apparently been accepted by you but as soon as there is a criticism you take it personally. Again, it's your perogative to make or not make changes - it's your model and you can do what you like with it, we can't stop you and we won't try to as we know that in the end TBP has always made the compromises that suit the project the best.

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Quoted by tomcat
Only a few people are entitled to a opinion related to modeling. Those people's opinion are respected. You are not one of them.

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