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And just look at post-WW1! The only country that was forced to disarm (Germany) went on to start the next great war. Obviously, disarmament is evil and is to blame.

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Canada contributed a lot of troops to the European theatres of WW2. They were a major participant.

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And just look at post-WW1! The only country that was forced to disarm (Germany) went on to start the next great war. Obviously, disarmament is evil and is to blame.

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I think invading Poland, Belgium, etc helped....

They didnt necessarily start WW1 I think, but they did the second one. I dont think they started building all those shiny tanks years prior because they were bored.

Ahem.

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Don't view it as pathetic; view it as good! Canada is leading the world in disarmament! If we all had military forces like those of Canada, hardly anybody would be able to hurt anyone else!

Of course, what (most of) you guys probably don't hear about the British armed forces is that they're crap too. Our Navy doesn't do live fire simulations anymore, the sailors just shout 'bang' and a computer logs the shell trajectory etc. The ships run engines on half of the time, and in 'neutral' the rest, so they don't use fuel. And so on, and so on.

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Don't view it as pathetic; view it as good! Canada is leading the world in disarmament!

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Canada has the best diesel powered submarines in the world, 8 of them bought from the RN for 5 dollars (US ) They should have gone for 100 mill each at least but it was a trade off ti use large swathes of canada as a perm training area for UK armed forces.

So be happy that Canada now has the ultimate in non nuclear hunter killer submarines (better then anything the US have) now if only i could remmber the class name

Man, we have 8? Wow, thats right up there with our what....12 destroyers and two refueling ships?

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Hey thats nothing. 2 years ago in Australia we spent about 8 Billion on producing one of the loudest submarines. Not only was it loud but its computer systems were out of date as well.

*cough* another gazooks! a picture! would be nice *cough*

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Kellan's supposed to be sending me a few shortly.

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The point is why does canada need a big army?

It has no overseas holdings or commitments, infact the UK is obliged to defend Canada. (unless of course you think Canada is going to get invaded by China via alaska ala Fallout).

The problem is in the modern world rich countries like Canada (and it other I8 nation freinds *cough* italy) need to contribute more to policing the rest of the world. Yes they are involved in many peacekeeping operations but as mehcanincs and rear echelon. The Canadian defence budget would be best spent on a few thousand highly trained troops with little or no amour to be quickly deplyed anywhere in the world, either that or a few squadrons of upto date fighter/bombers (JSF, Typhoon etc.) to aid in NATO/UN bombing. But to specialise on one thing because the budget is too small to diversify and the whole millitary suffers (as it is suffering now).

Good point. We don't need a big armed forces, but we do need one that isn't suffering like it is now. Our navy is in pretty good shape I hear....infact, except for the Alreigh Burke class destroyers, our destroyers are the stealthiest around apparently. Very low radar cross section.

Our airforce isn't too bad either, except that they are F/A-18A's and they are at least 20 years old, and we only have 128 of them or something.

Now, I doubt anyone is going to come and attack us. The Americans would never do that, they've already culturally assimilated us. No big deal And I doubt anyone else would. Didn't know that the UK has an obligation to defend us, but thats pretty good.

We need new freaking Helicopters. The Sea Kings are aweful

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Currently as far as i know the JSF is going to the US and UK only.

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*cough* another gazooks! a picture! would be nice *cough*

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Y'know, those F/A 18's are deadly, high-performance fighters. Don't put them down there with the old F-4 Phantoms.

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