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Posted by BruthaDenton on 11-03-2002 09:20 AM:

First they came for the macintosh users

..and stopped making macintosh games
and I looked the other way because they weren't PC users
... then they came and stopped making games for the PC

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh.

Now I'm trapped in a console-tration camp with these stupid little kiddy controllers and stupid games with stupid split screen "multiplayer" play and stupid kiddy controllers and crappy Tekken knockoffs and stupid kiddy controllers... no more mods... so much for the age of counterstrike and Babylon 5 Freespace 2 and Jailbreak... From now on it's these stupid kiddy controllers, Tekken or Rayman whatever, and split screen multiplayer.

Oh god. Shoot me now.
Just take me out and give me Capek's plague.

We're dooooooooomed!

Posted by EaSyKiLL on 11-07-2002 04:41 AM:

Ohh I visit here so seldom I missed all the fun. Where did the cat drag this from?

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1). Red Faction online has so many cheaters it isn't even funny. If I had to choose between RF or Op4 in terms of cheaters, I'd definitely go for Op4.

Umm last I checked UT2003 didnt have the cheat protection enabled (I think the patch finally did). On top of that all the "PRO Gamers" (oxi-moron?) cheat and cover it up by saying "thats how pro gamers play"

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2). Red Faction has a bland taste of weapons as far as being suited to multiplayer (read: horde the HMG and you'll win every match)

Umm UT2003 is even more bland. Rehash old weapons, make them suck more, come up with totally useless new weapon (who can say Ion-Painter), make rockets spam weapon of "Pro Gamers"
The rail gun is awesome, Sniper rifle is one of the best in any game I have played, rocket launcher, pistol, and the rest are pretty much standard fair.

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3). UT2003 has a highly immersive environment, not to mention amazing surface / brush effects. Red Faction obviously has Geo-Mod which is a first in the FPS industry, and very very good, but that is the ONLY perk that sets this game apart from any other FPS.

I would expect nothing less of a game 1.5 years newer than RF, with over 5 years of continuous development (since UT). I also expect all games after RF to have geo-mod of some form or another. I havent been able to destroy anything in UT2003. No game has as good of breakable glass effects as red faction. No other game has the destructive capabilities (maybe Halo)

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4). UT2K3 is more popular for online play.

Most servers sit empty, players bitch about every single setting (no x-loc, too much x-loc, IG, no IG, Low grav, Grav), Ive seen more people playing RF than UT2003 at certain times.

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5). UT2K3 uses a terragen derivative / based engine so that realistic shapes and meshes can be made without getting the dreaded "texture axis perpendicular to face" or "invalid solid shape" brush error. Now believe it or not, RF does NOT use anything like UT2K3 did... They did an excellent job of brushing canyons and other environmental objects, but they still appear to be "synthetic."

Same as above, for the time and development that has gone into UT I actually expect more out of it (so does everyone else). Most UT2003 players bitch cause the levels are too complex for fragging.

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6). Easier Mod support (at least for UT). UT2K3 runs decent on my PC so I've been able to play at 20 - 30 FPS. For mods in UT all you simply need to do is open up a menu, change the mutator list settings, and run the game. I've not yet seen a mod for Red Faction... At least I haven't seen one I should say.

Red Faction is far more easier to make mods for than UT2003, it just lacked support from the developer. All modding can be coded in simple easy to decipher, close to english, attribute files. (this is why it is so easy to cheat), all the files are there to make models, skins, levels, etc. The only real downfall is no source code. UT2003 has its own Unreal script which is difficult to learn (for the avg. joe) tedious and boring, plus 10 times more complex. There is 1 very good mod out for RF called Hive all new weapons, skins, etc.

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You're being biased in your opinion by weighing Red Faction as a better MP game simply because of Geomod or because it's the only MP game you're good at. I don't think it borders on Daikatana because UT2K3 is strictly multiplayer, and the only thing even SOMEWHAT reminiscent of Daikatana in that game is the environments in the levels you play.

This statement was not in comparison to RF. UT2003 was supposed to revolutionise Multi-player gaming (like daikatana was supposed to do for FPS) but it is just a prettier UT. UT2003 hasnt lived up to the communities expecttations (unless you are a "Pro Gamer") just like daikatana didnt.

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Once again, biasing... We both know there are other games besides Red Faction that are good fun on MP. You people are seriously being bigots... Open up to different games. I thought UT 1 would suck until I played it... Now it's my favorite MP game of all time. I'd personally say UT1 is actually in truth more easy to figure out than UT2K3, but when I get a new PC, UT2K3 is definitely going on it.

This is in reference to a post of Hunters, but I take offense, because I have more games than than most people. From wolfenstein to UT2003, i have most FPS made, along with many RTS, RPG, Sims, and just about any other game that is fun, popular, or groundbreaking (And some that were supposed to be but were not)

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This changes in games like Unreal Tournament and Unreal Tournament 2003. In Unreal, UT, and UT2K3 the Shock Rifle has a combo attack in which you shoot a plasma orb (secondary fire) and then shoot a shock blast (primary) at the said orb to cause a gigantic explosion which has a kill radius of about 12 meters.

This is a neat effect, but it is rarely reproduced in a DM, or a competitive team game. Most people shoot and miss, and then get fragged.

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UT2K3 has a new game called "bombing run" which is reminiscent of a soccer game, only... Now it is with guns.

This is one of the most over rated aspects (the most daikatana like) of UT2003. A x-loc spam fest with no team play, blatant cheating and unsportsmanlike play. X-loc to the ball, x loc, pass, xloc, pass, xloc, pass, score, "you n00bs suck Im not passing"

All I can say is very few games are "fun". Red Faction is fun. (even with the cheaters I can have fun with the right players)

SOF2 is fun on custom maps. (would be funner if CTF was "TRUE" ctf)

Jedi Knight 2 was fun. I am running a Lord of the rings mod with my server right now, real swords, orcs, elves, Nazgul. Fun, Fun, Fun.

UT2003 is booring, whining, bitching, spam, Translocator, BR, crappy servers, stupid "Pro Gamers" (oxi-moron?

). Epic screwed up when they listened to these "pro-Gamers". No-one wants to play a game where no weapons can kill effectivley, in 640x480, with no dynamic lights, no shadows, no fog, no particle effects, no weapons visible, everyone in one model with a flashlight, spamming translocator, shooting 4 rockets, and jumping more than a flea circus.

Posted by The_Croc on 11-07-2002 07:15 AM:

LOL IM with Easy, for a game that was delayed and in development as long as UT2k3 was I expected something a tad different then updated graphics. Which in reality is all is different. Lets see same weapons alot of rehashed maps..oOh new skins....

BTW its not that UT wasnt a great game, i just got terribly bored of it 2 or 3 years ago.. The time they spent they could have done SOMETHING!! Even the "improved" netcode isnt very good.

Posted by Remora on 11-07-2002 04:22 PM:

Props to Easy for that awesome objective argument. Young-ins take note, that is the PROPER way to flame

Nice job man, you've re-kindled hope in me that there IS intelligent life in this forum hahaha

Posted by DON'T SHOOT on 11-07-2002 07:15 PM:

Must agree with EasyKill on almost every point...a cogent and well thought out response. I don't think the fact that I am dissapointed with UT2K3 has anything to do with my love of RF. Sure there are comparisions, but to me the major point is I find myself getting easily bored with UT2K3 and returning to play RF. If there were a true game for FPS "purists," I think RF is it. When there are no cheaters in a match it is a pure test of skill...not how well you can use a gimmick such as the translocator or multiple rockets. I would prefer no damage amps in RF, but if that's the worst we have to live with then it's no biggie. The afternoon and evening rail matches in RF (HA's dedicated) are some of the best FPS action one could ever ask for. I will continue to play some UT2K3, but it sure hasn't met my expectations as a game that could replace RF. BTW. I do very well when I play UT2003 and I know all the maps....it just moves a little to slow and lacks the ability to keep me entertained. I can play RF for 4 to 6 hours at a sitting and lose track of time...a wonderful diversion.

Posted by Hunter83 on 11-08-2002 05:29 AM:

I wonder if I can return my copy of UT2k3........

UT2k3 on LAN = Fun with friends, cept when they don't want to play anymore b/c u crushed them

UT2k3 on the net = Bitchier then RF

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Posted by xplatinum on 11-13-2002 09:03 PM:

RF2 for PC ???

check this page out ... at the bottom

http://www.redfaction2.co.uk/reg.php

november 15th ... in 2 days ???

erm ... is rf2.co.uk a trustworthy source ?

later

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Posted by EaSyKiLL on 11-13-2002 09:14 PM:

Thats when the ps2 version gets released in the UK.

And who wants a Tony Blair T-shirt? My god what a dreadful promotion.

Posted by xplatinum on 11-13-2002 09:19 PM:

thanks man , but their info is still confusing since the desktop destroyer is linking directly to the .co.uk site

they should fix that

Posted by xplatinum on 11-15-2002 04:57 AM:

bump !

Posted by Sachem on 11-15-2002 10:52 AM:

back to the "RF is not fun it is dead UT is l33t" discussion, imho lately the FPSes have all been trying to do about the same thing: more realistic gfx, more futuristic weapons, more powerful weapons, realistic physics.... im thinking about Q3 UT2k3 mainly, but some FPSes tried doing alike with little changes

this isn't the case of RF, the gfx look good but don't exactly tend to be realistic, in maps and sp there are bright colors and not-so realistic stuff... For the gameplay, the physics are made for FUN, the gameplay is fast and simple, the action is intense and it's easy to handle (i remember i learned to play RF MP good in 2 games while it was one of my first online FPS experiences). The weapons are maybe not futuristic and l33t, but one is different from another, several shooting types/powers, adapted to several cases and well balanced overall, only probs being imho fusion is the suck and hmg slight too powerful and too big clip.
btw, hmg is a part of the game, if u get bashed by ppl using the hmg then it means u're not better than them (unless they are 3v1 spawn raping). If i have an HMG i will most likely use it when i need it, i wont take something else only to please whiners, and i wont moan if i get killed by the hmg either.

each time i tried a new game lately, even if i like it alot (nolf2, hitman2, WC3..), i feel less free than in RF, in RF i come, i play, and im sure i'll have fun even if i play like 10 minutes, theres always action and the gameplay is unique (in today's game) being simple and fast. I can play RF 2 hours without being bored as well.

I dont get why some ppl come and say "RF is dead, come play somethign else", if u dont play be happy and og play something else, but it doesn't mean the game is dead if you no longer play it....
RF is simply different. i wouldn't say its the best game of all time because it cnnot please eevryone. i showed RF to many of my gaming friends playing Q3 (UrT), UT, RTCW... they didnt like it at all, because the gameplay is "n00bish", maybe too simple.
But it's my all time favorite

as for RF2, i have little hope that it comes for PC, but i'll still stay tuned for it...

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Posted by faet on 11-19-2002 12:07 AM:

i would love having a PC vrsn of RF2 released. i bought rf for Ps2 the first time i loved it but the only problem was all my friends suck w/ games requireing use of more than 4 buttons (ie no Armored core 2 or Rf) even if i turned off the auto aim (or whatever) i could still get like 2-15

anyway i got the RF1 game for pc and played a few games, did good 1st or 2nd most the time.
i prolly wont play the PS2 game of RF2. but if they come out w/ pc ill skip school to get the first copy hehe
i need another FPS to play!!! since UT is gettin boring, Cs is slow, ut2k3 just plain sux...

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