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Posted by SATtva on 07-23-2003 06:54 AM:

In The Beginning campaign installation instructions

1. Download In The Beginning.rar file from [URL=http://koti.mbnet.fi/~fury/den5/In%20the%20Begining.rar]here[/URL] or from [URL=http://www.den5.pochta.ru/In%20the%20Begining.rar]here[/URL].
2. If you don't have it already installed, get a copy of WinRAR from [URL=http://www.rarlab.com/]RARlab[/URL].
3. Extract all files from In The Beginning.rar with directory structure preservation to the temporary folder.
4. Go to [Temp folder]\In The Beginning\.
5. Locate the file In The Beginning.vp and move it into your Freespece2 root directory.
6. Effects, maps, models and tables folders move into Freespace2\Data directory.
7. Start Freespace2, go to campaigns list and select In The Beginning. You're ready to go...

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Posted by den5 on 07-23-2003 06:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Morden
for some reason it wont allow me to extract the files from the .rar file.

it says theres an "Unknown method used in the file" which is very strange as i can see all the files, i just cant use them or extract them, might be my version of winrar, anyone else got this error?



It is necessary to use Winrar v3.20 or is higher.

[URL=http://den5.pochta.ru]In the Begining[/URL]


Posted by ajsims on 07-24-2003 12:43 AM:

question

hey i got the in the begining goin it is so cool but i cant get past the battle of vega when i t gives me the option to skip the mission it brings me back to mission vega again this missiion is very hard the minbari are tough but this mod rocks!!!


Posted by SATtva on 07-24-2003 11:22 AM:

Re: question

quote:
Originally posted by ajsims
hey i got the in the begining goin it is so cool but i cant get past the battle of vega when i t gives me the option to skip the mission it brings me back to mission vega again this missiion is very hard the minbari are tough but this mod rocks!!!


Don't set difficulty level higher than Easy for this kind of missions (otherwise all EA fighters will be wiped out very quickly), there is a number of them throughout the campaing. In the Battle of Vega, as I remember, all you need to do is to destroy all Nials (a plenty of them) and then jump out with EAS Squall.

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Posted by ajsims on 07-24-2003 04:05 PM:

now this

ok i destryoyed the nials when it was time to jump out the the squall jumped ok but my furriey powered up jumpengines and then said jump aborted so i was stuck there with my wing men????????/and i had the difficulty on easy this is the second time this has happend


Posted by BabProj Team on 07-24-2003 04:07 PM:

Re: now this

quote:
Originally posted by ajsims
ok i destryoyed the nials when it was time to jump out the the squall jumped ok but my furriey powered up jumpengines and then said jump aborted so i was stuck there with my wing men????????/and i had the difficulty on easy this is the second time this has happend

Not sure but did you try to engage the jump drive multiple times. Thats a fairly commony FS2 bug where the engines don't engage the first, second, third, or tenth time...but they will.

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Posted by SQUID_warrior on 07-24-2003 04:26 PM:

All right kiddies! Thought I'd give everyone an update on the English version of ITB. I've just reached the half-way point, missions 1-19 are finished. I've corrected all the briefing and in-game text and replaced all the audio files. I've tested all of the missions up to about 12 I think. I'll probably finish testing the rest by the end of the week. Shouldn't be too long before the whole thing is done! Hope you'll all enjoy this! I've had fun just working on it, so I can't wait to play the campaign once it's completed.

Oh and den5, what do you think about using the full nebula with ambient red for the hyperspace missions instead of the FS2 subspace animation? (Like in TBP missions) I've tried it out and I think it's much more accurate to the Bablyon 5 version of hyperspace. Lemme know what ya think.


Posted by Lady Rose on 07-24-2003 04:59 PM:

Re: Re: now this

quote:
Originally posted by IceFire
Not sure but did you try to engage the jump drive multiple times. Thats a fairly commony FS2 bug where the engines don't engage the first, second, third, or tenth time...but they will.


Yeah and Nials rip your hull when you hit jump 5th time

quote:
what do you think about using the full nebula with ambient red for the hyperspace missions instead of the FS2 subspace animation? (Like in TBP missions) I've tried it out and I think it's much more accurate to the Bablyon 5 version of hyperspace.

Agree on that, but can't have alot ships and fighting on it, it causes a lot of problems with even powerfullest computers.

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Posted by SATtva on 07-24-2003 06:03 PM:

quote:
when it was time to jump out the the squall jumped ok but my furriey powered up jumpengines and then said jump aborted so i was stuck there with my wing men????????

Try to engage your jump drives for several times while Squall is departing also keeping near EAS Squall. As IceFire had mentioned earlier this should work okay.


quote:
Agree on that, but can't have alot ships and fighting on it, it causes a lot of problems with even powerfullest computers.

Yep, I've got FS2 to crash in the first three seconds of every nebula-based TBP mission. (( This is the TBP issue I think, cus' the original FS2 hadn't this kind of a problem. Even setting the overall detail level to Low has no effect. Is there any way to solve this without moving the mission off the nebula environment?

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Posted by Lady Rose on 07-24-2003 06:54 PM:

I got some time and fixed that damn hyperspace mission on Tale of EAS Janus (and bunch of other mistakes). This has been up for a 2 days now, but haven't said anything. Those who want Janus as R2 compatiable can get it from her site (which is on my sig).

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Also leader of [URL=http://www.hot.ee/honorofomega/]Honor of Omega[/URL] campaign
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Posted by BabProj Team on 07-24-2003 09:36 PM:

BTW: We haven't really properly developed hyperspace to my liking yet. Its still a sort of WIP that we didn't work too much on for R2.

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Posted by ajsims on 07-24-2003 09:41 PM:

again

ok i did all of your replys to my question but to no avail anthing else i can do if i fail 5 times it gives me the option to skip to the next mission but it goes back to the battl;e of vega ahhh!!!!


Posted by SQUID_warrior on 07-24-2003 11:37 PM:

I've had FS2 crash on me a couple of times, both in hyperspace, and in normal missions. So I don't know what the deal is. I think hyperspace does need some improvement, still a bit too dark fro my taste. But I think it's much better than that horrid subspace animation from the original. That was always a weak point in FS and FS2 in my opinion. I don't seem to have a problem with lagging in hyperspace, but then again I haven't played a really complex mission in it yet.


Posted by SATtva on 07-25-2003 10:22 AM:

Have found a way to bypass TBP nebula problem - in D3D it works fine, Glide crashes it. Many thanks to IceFire.

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Posted by Ranger1 on 07-25-2003 05:53 PM:

Mine crashed a few times during some of the command briefings but I restarted the game and it worked fine. Now I'm ont he mission where they down the jumppoint experiment and my game crashes every time the Minbari jump in. Otherwise aside from the grammar it's great.

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Posted by SQUID_warrior on 07-25-2003 06:48 PM:

Re: again

quote:
Originally posted by ajsims
ok i did all of your replys to my question but to no avail anthing else i can do if i fail 5 times it gives me the option to skip to the next mission but it goes back to the battl;e of vega ahhh!!!!


If you just want to get past and keep playing, you can use cheat codes and make youself invincible.

Type in freespace2.com ingame, "Cheats enabled" should show up in the corner. Then hold the ~ key, and press I. There's alot more, but that's the only one I know.


Posted by ajsims on 07-25-2003 09:53 PM:

i have been using the cheats when its time to jump out it wont let me


Posted by karajorma on 07-25-2003 10:36 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ajsims
i have been using the cheats when its time to jump out it wont let me


I suspect that the mission makes use of the break-warp or Never-warp SEXPs when you aren't close to the ship you're supposed to jump out with. The situation you describe certainly sounds like it.

If that's the problem the cheats won't help you much

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Posted by Ranger1 on 07-26-2003 02:03 AM:

Well I got past that crash but with this campaign I keep noticing. Den5 you tend to put too many ships in the mission. Wing after wing after wing jumps in before other wings are taken out which builds up more and more fighters. I was just playing hte mission where oyu are departing from Io and wings keep jumping in and crash the game. There had to be like 50 fighters and around 8 cap ships there at 1 time. Yeah there is a limit on cap ships but there is one on fighters too. FS2 doesn't like that many at 1 time.

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Posted by ajsims on 07-27-2003 04:11 AM:

this mod was cool

well im all done the missions for itb it was a sweet mod thack u so mutch maybe a mod on the narn centarui was would be cool to


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