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Posted by Top Gun on 10-05-2002 12:32 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Bobboau
why Iraq?
1. nukes

No, the most Iraq could possibly muster is a dirty bomb and unless the country is attacked then the cances of them being used are 0. All this Guff about weabons of mass destruction is Propaganda.

quote:
Originally posted by Bobboau
2. controled by insaine islamic dictator who hates america probly more than anyone else alive

No wonder you have misguided opinions for beliving that kind of crap. If you want an Islamic dictatorship then go east of Iraq. Saddam's regieme is more of a cross between chauvinism and stalinism tham fundamentalism. It's probably the least Islamic state in the whole region. Hell, He's less of a muslim that Bush is a Christian. It's a fact that there's less Anti-Westernism in Iraq that Saudi Arabia, or Pakistan.

quote:
Originally posted by Bobboau
"We get those Iraqi reserves, and all of the sudden, Saudia Arabia doesn't matter anymore."
and this is a bad thing? I for one am tired of being there bitch.

You're not their "bitch", you're the "bitch" of about 100 very rich Saudis, the rest don't have any say in haw things go.

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Posted by haderak on 10-08-2002 10:58 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Dynamo

Newsflash for you, [url=http://www.enron.com]you are wrong.[/url] Just because a company files for bankruptcy doesn't mean that the company is gone. Bankruptcy just means you get shielded from your creditors and you get the chance to come out clean on the other side. So to you.

...and its assets being spreaded divided and absorbed by other entities (such as working women that went for playboy

)

quote:
Originally posted by Dynamo

Maybe, but at least I can spell it. (Lets all try it together now, n-a-i-v-e. Good!

Yes But I still got the advantage of speaking english, and at the same time yo dont know mine,

wich by the way is the 6th most spoken in this planet.

try to spell naeive in Portuguese... chop chop!!

quote:
Originally posted by Dynamo

Anyways, do you have any idea how much money it takes to run an army, a country, and develop nuclear capabilities. It's more money than you or I will probably ever see in our lifetimes. With all the sanctions on Iraq since the Gulf War, Saddam can't be making much new money and he can't last off his gold reserves forever.

News flash for you: Iraq bought literaly tons of uraniun from my contry and Brazil
in the 80's and the ispectors never got their hands on it. The only thing that keeps them from having nukes by now is that the enriching process is very slow and saddam has to do it bit by bit in clandestine facilities or have others do it for him.

My countries goverment knows where saddam might have it as we built half his palaces anexes and other facilities that escaped desert storm and the inspectors. Blue prints were sent recently over to the US inteligence organisations.

quote:
Originally posted by Dynamo

Did Saddam even have a stock of chemical weapons before then? I know he launched some nerve gas during the war, but if I remember right, most of it wasn't that potent.

Contradicted yourself...
Remenber the curds on north of iraq?

quote:
Originally posted by Dynamo

He's got EVERYTHING to lose. He's the ruler of a soverign nation with a huge supply of oil underneath his feet. I wish I could be sitting as pretty as he is right now. If Hussein gets ousted from power he will have NOTHING and he knows the best way to get ousted from power is by launching an attack on the US.

Icefire alredy told what i needed to say against this: If hes gonna go, hes going with a big bang as hes gonna get creamed anyway

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Posted by Great_Sephiroth on 10-17-2002 10:18 PM:

Hey yeah, just only 65%-70% in the planet have nuclear weapons. What a living hell.

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Posted by IceFire on 10-17-2002 10:59 PM:

I'm starting to see a polarization here....we're gearing up for some sort of climax. Iraq is persuing WMD's, al Qaeda is ready to launch new attacks on the continent, and North Korea has a nuclear weapons program. All three have been discussed before as being a separate potential hotspot...I don't think anyone would have imagined that all three would be brought into sudden clarity within the course of a year (or two).

To the strategists...this is a strategic nightmare.

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Posted by Remora on 10-18-2002 01:07 AM:

I would say this is a nightmare scenario for ANYONE living on this planet ... only a matter of time before someone pushes a button ...

Posted by GalacticEmperor on 10-19-2002 12:25 AM:

quote:
Tom Lehrer: Who's Next?
First we got the bomb, and that was good,
'Cause we love peace and motherhood.
Then Russia got the bomb, but that's okay,
'Cause the balance of power's maintained that way.
Who's next?

France got the bomb, but don't you grieve,
'Cause they're on our side (I believe).
China got the bomb, but have no fears,
They can't wipe us out for at least five years.
Who's next?

Then Indonesia claimed that they
Were gonna get one any day.
South Africa wants two, that's right:
One for the black and one for the white.
Who's next?

Egypt's gonna get one too,
Just to use on you know who.
So Israel's getting tense.
Wants one in self defense.
"The Lord's our shepherd," says the psalm,
But just in case, we better get a bomb.
Who's next?

Luxembourg is next to go,
And (who knows?) maybe Monaco.
We'll try to stay serene and calm
When Alabama gets the bomb.
Who's next?
Who's next?!

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Posted by BlackDove on 10-19-2002 01:21 AM:

cool song

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Posted by Tar-Palantir on 10-21-2002 04:19 PM:

I did hear an amusing song (on the radio) about why Bush jr wants to go to war, can't remember all the words but some were:

'He was mean to my daddy!
he called my pa rude names'

He made my daddy cry,
and for that at least the middle east deserves to fry,

He's got weapons of mass destructions
can I prove it? Yes I can,
'cos my daddy sold them to him when he was fighting with Iran.

The gaps indicate I could remember those parts, so thats why it doesn't a) flow very well and b) looks slightly odd. It was very amusing, at least I thought so- you decide for your selves. Clearly its not a pro-war song.

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Posted by Someone on 10-23-2002 11:38 AM:

...

Makes me think of the song: "Christmas at ground Zero"...

Also: "Bam Bam Iraq". Both by Weird Al Yankovic, I believe.

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Posted by BananaOfTheNight on 10-27-2002 09:35 PM:

We know that Saddam isn't "in the Hilton across the street". That's why we have the SAS and other spec. ops teams. The good ones infiltrate the target's location over a period of several years and slowly climb up the ranks until they have a good shot at the target and the target's advisors and close associates.
When the time is right (popular uprising, imminent use of NBC weapons, the correct moment to impede progress or to coincide with invasion), the team will strike and remove the targets from power (usually with a bullet to the brain or garotte to the throat) and escape.
That's why he isn't dead yet (or maybe he is, in secret?) - the special operations team are still working their way up the ranks.
Finally, there is a simple solution to the aid being spent on nukes - give him tins of food instead of money. That can't be used for weapons, unless.........WATCH OUT!!! CORNED BEEF FROM ABOVE!!!!!!
(collapses in a hail of baked beans)

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