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Posted by Remora on 04-22-2002 08:11 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Xaphod_x
if you have to explain it, it isn't funny


No way, it's still funny ... it's just that when you have to explain it, the moment is ruined because the doofus didn't get it. haha


Posted by Remora on 04-22-2002 08:11 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Xaphod_x
if you have to explain it, it isn't funny


No way, it's still funny ... it's just that when you have to explain it, the moment is ruined because the doofus didn't get it. haha


Posted by Monty Burns on 04-22-2002 08:35 PM:

Aft batteries. I get it. lol


Posted by Skullar on 04-22-2002 09:44 PM:

Thats correct. since the battle at Matok it became clear that a new ship is needed able to perform planetary bombardments. Simultaneously the ship should be able to stand a chance even against a Minbari Sharlin cruiser.

The Warlock project was started, but from the beginning on the main problem was they didn't possess the technology to realize such an ambitious project.
Things changed, however, when the EA got its hands on SHADOW technology, but the first Warlocks didn't go into service before the end of the Civil War.

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Posted by Skullar on 04-22-2002 09:44 PM:

Thats correct. since the battle at Matok it became clear that a new ship is needed able to perform planetary bombardments. Simultaneously the ship should be able to stand a chance even against a Minbari Sharlin cruiser.

The Warlock project was started, but from the beginning on the main problem was they didn't possess the technology to realize such an ambitious project.
Things changed, however, when the EA got its hands on SHADOW technology, but the first Warlocks didn't go into service before the end of the Civil War.

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Posted by Triggy on 04-22-2002 10:22 PM:

Didn't go into service. Doesn't mean that there wasn't a prototype or two lurking about...

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Posted by Triggy on 04-22-2002 10:22 PM:

Didn't go into service. Doesn't mean that there wasn't a prototype or two lurking about...

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Posted by Xaphod_x on 04-23-2002 12:04 AM:

I believe the only working prototypes available at that time were the Omega-X's.. the Warlock's were maybe still in the oven.

And the ship in Gropos is the Schwartzkopf? I ask because I couldn't quite read the nameplate.. and it had a very identifyable "J" on the side in the CG... is this another error, or didn't they decide that the letter would be the initial of the ship until later?

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Posted by Xaphod_x on 04-23-2002 12:04 AM:

I believe the only working prototypes available at that time were the Omega-X's.. the Warlock's were maybe still in the oven.

And the ship in Gropos is the Schwartzkopf? I ask because I couldn't quite read the nameplate.. and it had a very identifyable "J" on the side in the CG... is this another error, or didn't they decide that the letter would be the initial of the ship until later?

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Posted by darthwoo on 04-23-2002 01:14 AM:

I've seen a picture of the Schwartzkopf. There is a J at the bottom of the forward hull armor. I don't think the letter there always represents the name of the ship, but I don't know what it really does mean.


Posted by darthwoo on 04-23-2002 01:14 AM:

I've seen a picture of the Schwartzkopf. There is a J at the bottom of the forward hull armor. I don't think the letter there always represents the name of the ship, but I don't know what it really does mean.


Posted by ZylonBane on 04-23-2002 02:31 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Xaphod_x
I believe the only working prototypes available at that time were the Omega-X's.. the Warlock's were maybe still in the oven.
The two had nothing in common, other than the Shadow tech. The Omega-X's were thrown together at the last moment to battle Sheridan's advancing fleet. They were a purely stopgap measure, never intended to go into full production.

The Warlock eventually went into production, but without any Shadow tech.

http://www.b5tech.com/earthalliance/earthallianceshipsandvessels/earthcapships/earthcapships.html

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Posted by ZylonBane on 04-23-2002 02:31 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Xaphod_x
I believe the only working prototypes available at that time were the Omega-X's.. the Warlock's were maybe still in the oven.
The two had nothing in common, other than the Shadow tech. The Omega-X's were thrown together at the last moment to battle Sheridan's advancing fleet. They were a purely stopgap measure, never intended to go into full production.

The Warlock eventually went into production, but without any Shadow tech.

http://www.b5tech.com/earthalliance/earthallianceshipsandvessels/earthcapships/earthcapships.html

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Posted by IceFire on 04-23-2002 02:39 AM:

According to JMS AND that website, the Warlock's did have shadow tech inside of them. No Shadow influenced weapons (technically) but some of its systems were no doubt much more advanced than anything else that Earth had. Plus Minbari influenced gravitic systems (apparently heavily adapted and modified for Earth use). Its a mishmash if you think about it

The Warlock is one hell of a ship in any case.

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Posted by BabProj Team on 04-23-2002 02:39 AM:

According to JMS AND that website, the Warlock's did have shadow tech inside of them. No Shadow influenced weapons (technically) but some of its systems were no doubt much more advanced than anything else that Earth had. Plus Minbari influenced gravitic systems (apparently heavily adapted and modified for Earth use). Its a mishmash if you think about it

The Warlock is one hell of a ship in any case.

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Posted by ZylonBane on 04-23-2002 03:01 AM:

Operative word being "did". I've read elsewhere that when Clark's administration fell, the Shadow thralls destroyed all Shadow technology that they were assisting with. This is why Warlocks don't have Shadow bio-armor, among other things.

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Posted by ZylonBane on 04-23-2002 03:01 AM:

Operative word being "did". I've read elsewhere that when Clark's administration fell, the Shadow thralls destroyed all Shadow technology that they were assisting with. This is why Warlocks don't have Shadow bio-armor, among other things.

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Posted by ltnarol on 04-24-2002 12:29 PM:

my opinion on the letters on the side of an Omega/Nova has to do with its fleet assignment, and not with its name. There have been many ships who's letter didnt match its name.

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Posted by ltnarol on 04-24-2002 12:29 PM:

my opinion on the letters on the side of an Omega/Nova has to do with its fleet assignment, and not with its name. There have been many ships who's letter didnt match its name.

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Posted by FlakBait on 04-24-2002 03:08 PM:

Yea, that's what I was thinking, but aren't fleets numbered? Sixth fleet, Third fleet, Task force 77, etc.

It could also denote honors the ship has earned. In Red Storm Rising the USS Pharris is instricted to paint a gold "A" on their ASROC launcher, after sinking one sub, and assisting on two more.

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