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Posted by Kip Thorne on 03-11-2002 01:47 PM:

Joysticks

In response to Haderak:


>Tomcat said he would hardly hit anything with his Precision pro >2
>Well I have the force feedback version (have feedback disabled)
>and the only explanation to tomcats complaints might be:


Well,my guess is that he tried, suddenly sucked as a pilot, and went back to ol' mouse an' keyboard. I play a FPS with some silly binds since year 2000, and last week i tried to use optimized ones. I sucked for three days, my team begun complaining cuz i always let the enemy cap our flag, and went back to the silly binds.
I guess that when you've been using a control system for some time, people are never the same again...BUT THEY DO WHAT THEY'RE TOLD!AND SO WILL YOU! ;-)


>I can say basicly the same for those anti-twist rudders radicals. >only if you understood the pottential it has...

The next piece of harware ill buy after memory modules will be that kewl EM-based joystick with a rudder, in order to perform cool maneuvers (not only in TBP but also in IFH, where the new movement axis will need a rudder)


BTW, could the TBP staff add new effects to the FS2 FF??

>-its more precise because intead of springs controlling the >tension you have a magnetic field wich avoid that odd feeling >caused by the springs being attached in cross formation. the >tension is not the same in all directions.

How does that magnetic field work?Where could i read-learn more about input devices?

>-the springs will never break because there are none.

Thats what happened with my first joystick. Too much Tie Fighter i guess ;-)

Then again, my Wingman is f**** up because of too much use of turbo in Ep1 Racer ;-)))

It would be funny to see a demo of a mouse user trying to perform the "bonehead maneuver" lol

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Posted by Kip Thorne on 03-11-2002 01:47 PM:

Joysticks

In response to Haderak:


>Tomcat said he would hardly hit anything with his Precision pro >2
>Well I have the force feedback version (have feedback disabled)
>and the only explanation to tomcats complaints might be:


Well,my guess is that he tried, suddenly sucked as a pilot, and went back to ol' mouse an' keyboard. I play a FPS with some silly binds since year 2000, and last week i tried to use optimized ones. I sucked for three days, my team begun complaining cuz i always let the enemy cap our flag, and went back to the silly binds.
I guess that when you've been using a control system for some time, people are never the same again...BUT THEY DO WHAT THEY'RE TOLD!AND SO WILL YOU! ;-)


>I can say basicly the same for those anti-twist rudders radicals. >only if you understood the pottential it has...

The next piece of harware ill buy after memory modules will be that kewl EM-based joystick with a rudder, in order to perform cool maneuvers (not only in TBP but also in IFH, where the new movement axis will need a rudder)


BTW, could the TBP staff add new effects to the FS2 FF??

>-its more precise because intead of springs controlling the >tension you have a magnetic field wich avoid that odd feeling >caused by the springs being attached in cross formation. the >tension is not the same in all directions.

How does that magnetic field work?Where could i read-learn more about input devices?

>-the springs will never break because there are none.

Thats what happened with my first joystick. Too much Tie Fighter i guess ;-)

Then again, my Wingman is f**** up because of too much use of turbo in Ep1 Racer ;-)))

It would be funny to see a demo of a mouse user trying to perform the "bonehead maneuver" lol

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Posted by haderak on 03-11-2002 04:04 PM:

Re: Joysticks

quote:
Originally posted by Kip Thorne

It would be funny to see a demo of a mouse user trying to perform the "bonehead maneuver" lol



That is possible...if you use your head directly on the keyboard... will need a bit aof practice to hit the correct key appropriatly.

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Posted by haderak on 03-11-2002 04:04 PM:

Re: Joysticks

quote:
Originally posted by Kip Thorne

It would be funny to see a demo of a mouse user trying to perform the "bonehead maneuver" lol



That is possible...if you use your head directly on the keyboard... will need a bit aof practice to hit the correct key appropriatly.

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Posted by Xaphod_x on 03-11-2002 06:33 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by haderak
I can say basicly the same for those anti-twist rudders radicals. only if you understood the pottential it has...


I still don't like them.

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Posted by Xaphod_x on 03-11-2002 06:33 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by haderak
I can say basicly the same for those anti-twist rudders radicals. only if you understood the pottential it has...


I still don't like them.

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Posted by tomcat on 03-11-2002 10:02 PM:

Haderak go back to texturing u lazzy portugesh ass

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Posted by Fahd on 03-11-2002 11:50 PM:

Lightbulb

quote:
Originally posted by haderak
Those pro-mouse/keyboard fools sure its fine for long range aiming, but it must be hylarious observing one of these poor guys dragging it furiously ( as skullar said: Shrab shrab shrab LOL ) when at close range.


Bind mouse keys 4 and 5 to upwards and downwards movement. There no need to drag your mouse up and down the desk. Anyways setting the mouse sensitivity up reduces most of the dragging movement anyway

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Posted by Fahd on 03-11-2002 11:50 PM:

Lightbulb

quote:
Originally posted by haderak
Those pro-mouse/keyboard fools sure its fine for long range aiming, but it must be hylarious observing one of these poor guys dragging it furiously ( as skullar said: Shrab shrab shrab LOL ) when at close range.


Bind mouse keys 4 and 5 to upwards and downwards movement. There no need to drag your mouse up and down the desk. Anyways setting the mouse sensitivity up reduces most of the dragging movement anyway

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Posted by haderak on 03-12-2002 03:56 PM:

still its a handicap way to fly. Admit it all you pro-Keyboard/mouse radicals you all fail to adapt yourselves to a better way of doing things. Pitch by mouse buttons??? you still have to yaw and roll.
(shrab shrab shrab shrab shrab shrab shrab shrab)

quote:
Originally posted by tomcat
Haderak go back to texturing u lazzy portugesh ass


Thats Portuguese, learn to write!!!!

Will do I'll see if I can finish my current job this weekend, I'm tired having the same ship pending all the time.

oh and my posts have beem imput from PC rooms at college, between gaps on the timetable .

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Posted by haderak on 03-12-2002 03:56 PM:

still its a handicap way to fly. Admit it all you pro-Keyboard/mouse radicals you all fail to adapt yourselves to a better way of doing things. Pitch by mouse buttons??? you still have to yaw and roll.
(shrab shrab shrab shrab shrab shrab shrab shrab)

quote:
Originally posted by tomcat
Haderak go back to texturing u lazzy portugesh ass


Thats Portuguese, learn to write!!!!

Will do I'll see if I can finish my current job this weekend, I'm tired having the same ship pending all the time.

oh and my posts have beem imput from PC rooms at college, between gaps on the timetable .

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Posted by tomcat on 03-12-2002 10:10 PM:

what ever ..co back to your corner ot texturer

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Posted by Alphakiller on 03-13-2002 04:53 AM:

hahahaha. Go tomcat.

Haderak: Twists can have all the 'potential' they want. If they interfere with my flying, they = gone.
This is why I love my Precision Pro 1 - the twist is just 'sticky' enough to stay centered every time unless I WANT it to move. Great stick

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Posted by Alphakiller on 03-13-2002 04:53 AM:

hahahaha. Go tomcat.

Haderak: Twists can have all the 'potential' they want. If they interfere with my flying, they = gone.
This is why I love my Precision Pro 1 - the twist is just 'sticky' enough to stay centered every time unless I WANT it to move. Great stick

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Posted by haderak on 03-13-2002 11:49 AM:

I had the precision 1 pro too. its twist is quite umprecise to the once compared on the second series. and it will moove only when you want it to. It has an angular spring for it. Better than yours.
I'm thinking in getting the new thrustmaster cougar (depends on the costs ), well thats a real stick...

Ok Ok I'm texturing...

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Posted by haderak on 03-13-2002 11:49 AM:

I had the precision 1 pro too. its twist is quite umprecise to the once compared on the second series. and it will moove only when you want it to. It has an angular spring for it. Better than yours.
I'm thinking in getting the new thrustmaster cougar (depends on the costs ), well thats a real stick...

Ok Ok I'm texturing...

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Posted by Xaphod_x on 03-13-2002 04:00 PM:

I miss those flight stick & throttle replicas that were about £85 each but damn nice.

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Posted by Xaphod_x on 03-13-2002 04:00 PM:

I miss those flight stick & throttle replicas that were about £85 each but damn nice.

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Posted by Skullar on 03-13-2002 05:25 PM:

I have a cool SAITEK Cyborg 3D . That stick rules.

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Posted by Alphakiller on 03-13-2002 05:33 PM:

God. I hate hate hate hate flaming death Saitek Cyborg 3Ds. Why? I *broke* two of them. I don't abuse my hardware; I had a Sidewinder 3D Pro for like 4 years before it died, these Saiteks went to hell within 2 months.

Digital mode 'skipped' around, randomly 'jerking' the stick in a direction making the game totally unplayable.
Analog was so mushy and unresponsive it wasn't funny.

We got one, it died, RMAed. Got another, it died, said 'screw this crap' and got a Wingman. Happy.

I still like my Precision Pro. I don't know wtf you're talking about telling me it's less precise; I like the twist and the stick better than the PP2. Having used both.

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