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Posted by haderak on 11-05-2001 12:50 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by tomcat
release 2 will containe every Centauri Narn ship ...canon aog(maybe some not

Wha... wha... what??!! Tomcat make up your mind!!!!

last time You said that 2nd release list only had ships from EA and minbar designs...

By the way ET1 might talk to you about my next assignment on those ships...

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Posted by Mr. Fury on 11-05-2001 01:26 PM:

A small correction:

As far as I know...
Release 2 contains rest of EA and Minbari ships.
Release 3 contains Narn and Centauri ships.

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Posted by mobvekhar on 11-05-2001 07:15 PM:

question about the nova:

does the Nova Dreadnought have beam cannons in the show?

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Posted by NiceTry on 11-05-2001 07:37 PM:

I don't think so.

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Posted by IceFire on 11-05-2001 10:02 PM:

No....with the exception of a single scene in ITB....and even thats sort of disputed and somewhat contradictory.

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Posted by mobvekhar on 11-05-2001 10:12 PM:

So, the Nova won't get beamcannons in the mod?

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Posted by TheEXone on 11-05-2001 10:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by tomcat
actually the models are quite BAD for FS2... they where made for Homeworld not FS2..None of them is a single Solidobject-body and rest as childs.. bazilion of piled vertex .. tousend of 2 face poligons..that make FS2 engine hurt.. body parts intersecting etc...

And yes they don't came close to our models..

U can see clearrly that the modles where not for a space sim..
If I was in your place Exone..I'll start modeling ...not converting..

You sound as if I am in competing with you guys, I put this thing
together in two weeks, do you expect the ships to be perfect?

I would really like to know how to fix the colision dectection problem, and how to generaly make the ships better. And if I could model ships I would, but the best thing I can do is modify them.

As for the weapons, if anyone can come up with more realistic graphics please send them to me at TheEXone@hotmail.com , I thought they were pretty good, but I guess I was wrong.

Posted by NiceTry on 11-05-2001 11:29 PM:

I think it's pretty good for 2 weeks work.

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Posted by Alphakiller on 11-06-2001 12:18 AM:

ExOne, I don't think anyone's really dissing on you, he's just pointing out the flaws of your source - not that your work sucks. Your attitude to "figure out how to fix it" is very cool, and *ahem* I hope you get some help on how to fix 'em up so even if they aren't TBP official, they're nice and pretty

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Posted by haderak on 11-06-2001 04:57 PM:

TheExOne:

The meshes are bad but thats not your fault... whats missing here is better configs for ships, I have made the Thnor NOt fire, throught it self .Reconfigured all barrels normals, they were poiting to the front and now are pointing 90Âº directly away from the hull ,and put each weapon on the right turret, beams are now at the front and not the rear, They have a 60Âº firing cone. It is still capable of firing at any direction but at the same time not through it self. Also on the Vorchan made the barrels normals at 45Âº and they have a view cone of 45Âº wich ensures that it can fire to the front as well as 90Âº up (up turrets) and 90Âº down (down turrets) it cannot fire backwards and through the body or wings.

The sentri was a bit too big wich made the guns far appart and that was very dificult to hit fighters. (even now its a bit hard)
But this fighter sure looks cool.
The frazi was too small and apeared to fly like a rocket when it should look a tad sluggish. Was also hard to hit.

Thats it. your pack only needed a bit of more carefull thinking and organization.

Posted by tomcat on 11-06-2001 09:30 PM:

since he like to convert ships.. I got planty of models to convert for mission designer only

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Posted by mobvekhar on 11-06-2001 09:41 PM:

Can those modifications made to the unofficial add-on pack be downloaded?

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Posted by haderak on 11-06-2001 10:34 PM:

If TheExone wishes I can send those MODed POF's to him if he wishes making them public. If so ExOne give your mail.

Posted by TheEXone on 11-07-2001 05:54 PM:

Thanks alot, that problem with the turret fireing arcs was something I didn't know how to do properly. How exacly do you set up the normals?

I going to rescale the sentri and fix a few other problems. One thing I really need help in is the collision detection problem, How can I make it correct. Some ships are pefect, but others have holes you can fly through, this has to be fixed.

If you could send the pof's to me I would appreciate it. I will put them in the zip file to release by this weekend, I am adding the primus.

Also I was wondering if anyone would like to help me make a mission or two about the narn- centauri war in 2259.

For everthing my e-mail is theexone@hotmail com

thank you all for your thoughts and suggestions.

Posted by haderak on 11-07-2001 06:08 PM:

Ok then I'll send them tonight at 21:00 (will be about 16:00 there)
I'll send also some tables entries because I swiched turrets guns to the right places. The sentri now behaves very similary to the show. Fast and deadly but slower than starfury at turning arround Y and Z axis. The sky serpent wont look strange any more, it will fly in straighter trajectories and its faster now (based on some battle sequences)
I wont be sending the sunhawk Because I'm using a different model...

Ahh by the way the narn transport makes the game accelerate and decelarate time a tad when you turn while aiming at any ship in close range...it apears its not a stable model. If any of you whats to make big massive missions avoid using this one.

Posted by pera on 11-07-2001 09:05 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by haderak

Ahh by the way the narn transport makes the game accelerate and decelarate time a tad when you turn while aiming at any ship in close range...it apears its not a stable model. If any of you whats to make big massive missions avoid using this one.

Does what? Accelerates time? Huh?

Posted by Starkiller on 11-07-2001 09:06 PM:

I didn't notice any problems with the Narn-transport.

Posted by haderak on 11-07-2001 10:40 PM:

Have you never used a model that caused difference in speed while you turn? its a common symptom of unstable meshes.
Well at least it does to me when i have narn transports on screen.
Besides id does look bizarre, looks like its squashed...

I'm sending the models now check your mail now EXone

Posted by IceFire on 11-08-2001 02:46 PM:

haderak, what models are you sending? Not TBP official ones I hope.

Posted by haderak on 11-08-2001 03:24 PM:

noooo icefire the models I'm sending are modified versions of the unoficial pack, just tweked some turrets that all. All of our models are safe.... and will be MUCH better I'm not sending them away that would be crazy LOL

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