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Posted by Londo Molari on 08-15-2001 03:58 PM:

As cptwhite said THAT NOVA DID NOT FRIGGIN' BLOW UP! THE EXPLOSION IS FROM ANOTHER SHIP!

WHats wrong with you ppl!

NOW , WHY DID YOU REPLY WHEN LONDO SAID HUSH!

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

hut! hut! Shhhhhhhhhhhh.

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Posted by IceFire on 08-15-2001 04:02 PM:

Chill d00d.

No...if you watch the sequence...the Nova in question that is firing beam weapons is underneath the Nova's that exploded. It probably got quickly tooled after the scene...but not during from the looks of it.

The beams are definately present. There isn't many other explanations.

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Posted by Marcus on 08-15-2001 05:03 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by IceFire
Chill d00d.

No...if you watch the sequence...the Nova in question that is firing beam weapons is underneath the Nova's that exploded. It probably got quickly tooled after the scene...but not during from the looks of it.

The beams are definately present. There isn't many other explanations.

That is because they are pointing at the Nova, and the camera is in the middle of the beam fire.

Posted by IceFire on 08-15-2001 05:10 PM:

No...its definately NOT a Minbari beam. So therefore it has to be an Earth beam.

Posted by The Claw on 08-15-2001 06:44 PM:

If you look carefully, the ship DOES get blown up, as well as the ships above it... it's hard to spot, but it's there.
I am still against the idea that they had any beams- for instance ( I know this isn't definative proof, btw ) going back to the episode in series one ( A voice in the wilderness) when we first see the Hyperion, THAT had no beam weapons, and it's what? 10 years after the EA/MF war?

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Posted by CptWhite on 08-15-2001 07:49 PM:

thats like saying a standard car from the 70s doesnt have power steering, and still doesnt today. it doesnt mean power steering still doesnt exist. thats about the worst argument ive ever heard lol

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Posted by Marcus on 08-15-2001 08:03 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by CptWhite
thats like saying a standard car from the 70s doesnt have power steering, and still doesnt today. it doesnt mean power steering still doesnt exist. thats about the worst argument ive ever heard lol

Well think about this one all the other times we see a Nova the beam is RED!!!! EA=RED! MF=Green!!!!!, and for somthing too think about what if not all the ships in the EA could have beams look at the Tech info of the old vasudian ships the Tphion had some probs with mounting beams, so whats to say that the EA did not have that same prob, I rest my cace.

Posted by Cr@zYdAvE on 08-15-2001 08:11 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by CptWhite
now lets not cry about this,its just a show after all, the babylon 5 universe is MADE UP, NOT REAL.

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Posted by The Claw on 08-15-2001 08:23 PM:

It is only a bad argument if you misunderstand how I meant it...
Do you understand it?

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Posted by Marcus on 08-15-2001 08:31 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by The Claw
It is only a bad argument if you misunderstand how I meant it...
Do you understand it?

If you have seen B5 In the beginning you would no that the EA had no beams of eny sort.

Posted by MaSC on 08-15-2001 08:57 PM:

Geez, the beams are red, thus they are EA beams and by wierd coincedence they are coming from Novas Gunports.

Hence the Nova is firing

Question: What is the problem with a Nova having beam weapons? Why are some of you so uptight about it?

All it means is that the EA didn't buy beams from the Narns, it was never said in the show what weapons the EA bought off the Narns.

Posted by MaSC on 08-15-2001 09:01 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Marcus
If you have seen B5 In the beginning you would know that the EA had no beams of any sort. [/B]

Why? In fact that was one of the few times we saw Nova's firing in itb and even then theres no garentee that they would use just because they where there.

Asd for Hyperions, its possible that util after the War that Beams where just too big or power hungary for Hyperions and when they where suitable then the Hyperions where upgraded.

Posted by CptWhite on 08-15-2001 09:03 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by The Claw
It is only a bad argument if you misunderstand how I meant it...
Do you understand it?

I sure as hell dont understand that grammar

Posted by MaSC on 08-15-2001 09:12 PM:

Re: What is it with you people...

quote:
Originally posted by Kazan
and bashing B5tech.com - i see him constantly quoting cannon sources, and all his information seems to be well-substantiated. [/B]

Just because he said an apple was an apple doesn't mean you should believe him when he says another apple is a pear.

It wouldn't be a problem if he stated his sources but until then B5Tech usless as a source.

Posted by Marcus on 08-16-2001 12:18 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by MaSC
Geez, the beams are red, thus they are EA beams and by wierd coincedence they are coming from Novas Gunports.

Hence the Nova is firing

Question: What is the problem with a Nova having beam weapons? Why are some of you so uptight about it?

All it means is that the EA didn't buy beams from the Narns, it was never said in the show what weapons the EA bought off the Narns.

You must be coler blined, but I would think that it would be too hard to win without them, so.... I change my vote.. haa pout them on.

Posted by Sigma957 on 08-16-2001 01:53 AM:

Hehe This arguement is passing the time while we wait for the demo....

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Posted by IceFire on 08-16-2001 01:31 PM:

There is always the third option: the FX guys screwed up. Like on that scene with the Thunderbolts (season 3) where they do the missing man formation. Those thrusters are blue, but we know they aren't

Posted by Boron Shark on 08-16-2001 02:48 PM:

I think we can safely assume that after the war, beam weapons were retrofitted to surviving Nova dreadnoughts as it makes sense. The technology had been bought from the Narns and it wouldn't have taken a lot of effort to reverse engineer it given that the Narns had done the same with Centauri weapons.

D.

Posted by IceFire on 08-17-2001 01:12 AM:

Although Nova's were underpowered as it was.

Posted by Marcus on 08-17-2001 04:06 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by IceFire
There is always the third option: the FX guys screwed up. Like on that scene with the Thunderbolts (season 3) where they do the missing man formation. Those thrusters are blue, but we know they aren't

Nope they were not Thunderbolts, but I dont whant to fight over it, and the Nova was more like a gunship. I are you going to pout beams on the big guns on the top and on its bely?

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