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Posted by -Norbert- on 04-03-2003 12:12 PM:

Aren't the Centauri using beams too?
If not, where did the Narns get them from?

Posted by Ghostavo on 04-03-2003 01:05 PM:

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The slight help the Shadows gave might have had something to do with the Centauri victory.

Yeah, but the beans on those weapons are extremelly powerful...
Not even the First Ones have that kind of weapons...

Not even Sinclair's Duck!!!

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Posted by Ashark on 04-03-2003 01:15 PM:

quote:
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Yeah, but the beans on those weapons are extremelly powerful...
Not even the First Ones have that kind of weapons...

Not even Sinclair's Duck!!!

yeah a few Mr. Bean's can take out a galaxy

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Posted by BabProj Team on 04-03-2003 01:30 PM:

I get the impression that good weapon = instant victory. War is never certain and technology isn't the only factor affecting outcome.

We don't have the Primus in this release (its not done) so you won't be seeing any Centauri beams. The Vorchan is more of a pulsed weapon and missile platform. The Centauri like their rapid fire pulse cannons so thats what you'll see them using the most. The Narn probably bought or stole or developed alot of their own weapons technology BASED on what they captured from the Centauri. The G'Quan beams are essentially the same as the Omega beams.

All I can see is wait to see what we've done. I assure you that its balanced and fun...you won't typically be downed by a capital ship on your first pass...fighters are very important....but don't expect to take a G'Quan out by yourself if its got any sort of fighter defense at all.

Fighters play a tactical role. Taking out subsystems and destroying turrets. We've made sure you can do that.

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Posted by -Norbert- on 04-04-2003 11:20 PM:

Yes, the Centauri Ion Cannons can really hurt alot.

But havn't the humans improved the beamsweapons they bought from the Narn. From Battle Lasers to X-Ray Lasers?
And is the GODs Heavy Particle Beam just a bigger verion of the X-Ray or an other technology?

BTW does the GOD Beam make more damage than an Omega Beam in TBP?

Posted by Edwin on 04-05-2003 12:07 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by FSF Ashrak
yeah a few Mr. Bean's can take out a galaxy

the problem is we couldn't send him beyond the rim for more than a few seconds. He cant even get out of his car for a few minuites without it being rolled over by a tank.... I'd hate to the tank that could roll over the galaxy.

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Posted by Kazan on 04-05-2003 02:30 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by -Norbert-
BTW does the GOD Beam make more damage than an Omega Beam in TBP?

without looking at the table i cannot say for certain.. but i believe it does

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Posted by FlakBait on 04-05-2003 04:10 AM:

If it's anything like the show-you don't want to be anywhere near it.

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Posted by BabProj Team on 04-05-2003 06:10 AM:

Battle Lasers are Centauri powered and thus relatively strong...as it goes for us, the Centauri still prefer pulse weapons and the Battle Lasers are typically used to carve up space stations and the like.

They are not what the Narn use however, they use X-Ray technology virtually the same as the EA does. Both have probably been improved since the E-M War days. For our tables, the entry for the Narn and EA is the same. Its pointless to duplicate the weapon....and for the record, the G'Quan is very effective at using them to take down an enemy capital ship. So is the Omega.

Particle beams are in the realm of the Fusion/Neutron beams in power, but slower fire rates typically (and the Warlock mounts 2 on the front VS the multitudes that the Sharlin has).

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Posted by Grey Area on 04-07-2003 03:34 PM:

Vree

I'd love to see the "Green Hail Of Death" weapon of the heavier Vree saucer in action. Now that's devistating!

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Posted by Mr. Fury on 04-07-2003 04:12 PM:

I am wondering how it can be done properly, without events that is.

Perhaps single beam with a texture that makes the beam look like it's consisting of large amount of pulse bolts...

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Posted by Prophet on 04-07-2003 04:47 PM:

It's so long since I've seen it, but perhaps rapid fire pulse with trail would work?

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Posted by CptWhite on 04-07-2003 05:08 PM:

fury's plan is possible with SCP, but im thinking a pulse turret would look better anyway

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Posted by Mr. Fury on 04-07-2003 05:24 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by CptWhite
fury's plan is possible with SCP, but im thinking a pulse turret would look better anyway

Yeah but the problem is that how numerous individual pulse turrets would behave like one big turret in certain situations.

Tricky.

Posted by Edwin on 04-07-2003 11:22 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Fury
Yeah but the problem is that how numerous individual pulse turrets would behave like one big turret in certain situations.

Tricky.

use one turret with numerous firing points.

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Posted by -Norbert- on 04-08-2003 12:18 PM:

The bigger Vree ship (Xorr I think is the name) can only shoot in one direction (down) right?

Posted by Prophet on 04-08-2003 12:59 PM:

I think so. But the saucer is prolly quite agile and the gun helluva powerful...

Posted by FlakBait on 04-09-2003 04:17 AM:

The "gunboat" flight model?

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Posted by IPAndrews on 04-09-2003 03:35 PM:

Re: Vree

quote:
Originally posted by Grey Area
I'd love to see the "Green Hail Of Death" weapon of the heavier Vree saucer in action. Now that's devistating!

Oh I love that one!

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Posted by BabProj Team on 04-09-2003 04:41 PM:

Multiple turret weapons all concentrated in the same place will do the trick nicely. A good enough arc and these guys will do heavy damage....some kind of AI routine change through source may be needed to make this look good in terms of attack positions however.

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