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Posted by aldo_14 on 11-22-2002 09:59 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Tar-Palantir


Maybe they did. Does the tech description for the Hades in FS2 (you have to look in the ships.tbl) say something like 'GTVA have denied rumours of rebuilding the Hades' of something like that.



They probably just slapped that in here to give modders a reason to use it......IIRC the Ganymede in particular is never used ingame. It's in the Colossus cutscene, though.

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Posted by Icer on 11-22-2002 11:31 PM:

quote:
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That was hinted at in Silent Threat but not really elaborated. We at the Freespace Port intend to change all that... Read my interview on HLP to find out more about Silent Threat: Reborn.
Do you happen to have a link to this interview? I don't know where to find it .

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Posted by Icer on 11-22-2002 11:31 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by GalacticEmperor
That was hinted at in Silent Threat but not really elaborated. We at the Freespace Port intend to change all that... Read my interview on HLP to find out more about Silent Threat: Reborn.
Do you happen to have a link to this interview? I don't know where to find it .

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Posted by BlackDove on 11-23-2002 08:35 AM:

Re: 2 Questions on the FreeSpace 2 Intro...

quote:
Originally posted by TamaNeko
I've just recently started to play FS2, but I have 2 questions regarding the intro movie...

1. Is it just my copy, or is the video quality of the movie...not as great as FS1's intro? I'm not saying that it's bad, but in comparison with FS1's intro, it doesn't look that great. FS1's Intro movie had much more detail and clarity. It looked pretty good considering it's an older game. But FS2's Intro movie isn't so...

2. Is that the GTI Hades that's crashed in that planet in the Deneb system? What's it doing there? The GTI Hades in Silent Threat appeared in the Beta Aquilae system. Or is it another Hades? Will it be explained later on in the story(no spoilers please! :P)



1. Video quality is much much worse than that of the FS1, all of the cutscenes in FS2 are. However it was most probably done to save space or something O.o

2. About a million and one inconsistencies with the intro, majority thinks that they were overlooked just so that the intro of FS2 would look cool...if you want to find out the inconsistencies, look at the HLP forums or maybe it was listed somewhere here...do a search, I'm not sure

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Posted by BlackDove on 11-23-2002 08:35 AM:

Re: 2 Questions on the FreeSpace 2 Intro...

quote:
Originally posted by TamaNeko
I've just recently started to play FS2, but I have 2 questions regarding the intro movie...

1. Is it just my copy, or is the video quality of the movie...not as great as FS1's intro? I'm not saying that it's bad, but in comparison with FS1's intro, it doesn't look that great. FS1's Intro movie had much more detail and clarity. It looked pretty good considering it's an older game. But FS2's Intro movie isn't so...

2. Is that the GTI Hades that's crashed in that planet in the Deneb system? What's it doing there? The GTI Hades in Silent Threat appeared in the Beta Aquilae system. Or is it another Hades? Will it be explained later on in the story(no spoilers please! :P)



1. Video quality is much much worse than that of the FS1, all of the cutscenes in FS2 are. However it was most probably done to save space or something O.o

2. About a million and one inconsistencies with the intro, majority thinks that they were overlooked just so that the intro of FS2 would look cool...if you want to find out the inconsistencies, look at the HLP forums or maybe it was listed somewhere here...do a search, I'm not sure

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Posted by programX on 11-23-2002 01:01 PM:

Re: Re: 2 Questions on the FreeSpace 2 Intro...

quote:
Originally posted by BlackDove


1. Video quality is much much worse than that of the FS1, all of the cutscenes in FS2 are. However it was most probably done to save space or something O.o

2. About a million and one inconsistencies with the intro, majority thinks that they were overlooked just so that the intro of FS2 would look cool...if you want to find out the inconsistencies, look at the HLP forums or maybe it was listed somewhere here...do a search, I'm not sure




Posted by programX on 11-23-2002 01:01 PM:

Re: Re: 2 Questions on the FreeSpace 2 Intro...

quote:
Originally posted by BlackDove


1. Video quality is much much worse than that of the FS1, all of the cutscenes in FS2 are. However it was most probably done to save space or something O.o

2. About a million and one inconsistencies with the intro, majority thinks that they were overlooked just so that the intro of FS2 would look cool...if you want to find out the inconsistencies, look at the HLP forums or maybe it was listed somewhere here...do a search, I'm not sure




Posted by Fry Day on 11-24-2002 12:48 PM:

The video quality is worse because of the nature of the encoding. The FS2 intro is the most problematic, since because of the nature of the encoding (Which, I assume, like JPEG and MPEG, uses some form of the Fourier transformation), Colors like blue (which are high-frequency), have very visible compression errors, and you get a pretty clear explanation of why the images there simply look worse. Of course, the bitrate could (And I seem to think it is) lower than FS1's.

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Posted by Fry Day on 11-24-2002 12:48 PM:

The video quality is worse because of the nature of the encoding. The FS2 intro is the most problematic, since because of the nature of the encoding (Which, I assume, like JPEG and MPEG, uses some form of the Fourier transformation), Colors like blue (which are high-frequency), have very visible compression errors, and you get a pretty clear explanation of why the images there simply look worse. Of course, the bitrate could (And I seem to think it is) lower than FS1's.

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Posted by Tar-Palantir on 11-25-2002 03:45 PM:

quote:
Yeah but if the Colossus was a secret it could have been that people thought that was the second hades.


Who says the Big C was a secret? Okay you don't hear about it before it shows up to save the day in 'The Sixth Wonder' but no where else does is say (or even hint?) that the Colossus was secret. 30000 officers and crew can suddenly be reassigned without anyone knowing about it, and you can't have a considerable amount of construction workers and designers working on something without someone at sometime letting something slip.

And secondly the Colossus, as someone else has pointed out, is a message. Would you keep something like that a secret. Admittedly someparts would be kept classified (like turret number etc).

Feel free to disagree.

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Posted by Tar-Palantir on 11-25-2002 03:45 PM:

quote:
Yeah but if the Colossus was a secret it could have been that people thought that was the second hades.


Who says the Big C was a secret? Okay you don't hear about it before it shows up to save the day in 'The Sixth Wonder' but no where else does is say (or even hint?) that the Colossus was secret. 30000 officers and crew can suddenly be reassigned without anyone knowing about it, and you can't have a considerable amount of construction workers and designers working on something without someone at sometime letting something slip.

And secondly the Colossus, as someone else has pointed out, is a message. Would you keep something like that a secret. Admittedly someparts would be kept classified (like turret number etc).

Feel free to disagree.

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Posted by karajorma on 11-25-2002 04:43 PM:

Maybe the first stages of construction were secret and sparked the rumours forcing the GTVA to come clean

Besides I only said IF the colossus was a secret. I`ve not seen enough to decide either way (especially since the colossus cutscene stuff was secret yet didn`t reveal anything that wouldn`t be public knowledge for a modern warship)

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Posted by karajorma on 11-25-2002 04:43 PM:

Maybe the first stages of construction were secret and sparked the rumours forcing the GTVA to come clean

Besides I only said IF the colossus was a secret. I`ve not seen enough to decide either way (especially since the colossus cutscene stuff was secret yet didn`t reveal anything that wouldn`t be public knowledge for a modern warship)

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Posted by BlackDove on 11-25-2002 07:51 PM:

Secret or not it was a piece of junk Building a Hades with those beams (or the Lucifer's ones O.o)....mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Posted by BlackDove on 11-25-2002 07:51 PM:

Secret or not it was a piece of junk Building a Hades with those beams (or the Lucifer's ones O.o)....mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Posted by ns33 on 11-25-2002 11:29 PM:

quote:
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Secret or not it was a piece of junk Building a Hades with those beams (or the Lucifer's ones O.o)....mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


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Posted by ns33 on 11-25-2002 11:29 PM:

quote:
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Secret or not it was a piece of junk Building a Hades with those beams (or the Lucifer's ones O.o)....mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


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Posted by ~[)ragon~ on 11-26-2002 02:49 AM:

lol i thought the hades was a peice of **** the first time i saw it could hardly hurt me and i took out really quickly... allthough now i think it is probaly the best warship in space possibly i mean collusus would of wiped it up realy good same wit a sathanas but untill beams were invented nothing would of been able to match that! and the collusus well i think that was really kewl untill it got blown up and well that pisssed me off.. it took like 8 beam hits and it was gone what a peice of crap if your asking me! i once made a level where i had 4 deimos with BFG beams and they kicked its ass within 15 seconds collosus was down lol just imangine if aken bosch had done that he would or really scared the alliance hehe that's wha i would of done if it had been me!


Posted by ~[)ragon~ on 11-26-2002 02:49 AM:

lol i thought the hades was a peice of **** the first time i saw it could hardly hurt me and i took out really quickly... allthough now i think it is probaly the best warship in space possibly i mean collusus would of wiped it up realy good same wit a sathanas but untill beams were invented nothing would of been able to match that! and the collusus well i think that was really kewl untill it got blown up and well that pisssed me off.. it took like 8 beam hits and it was gone what a peice of crap if your asking me! i once made a level where i had 4 deimos with BFG beams and they kicked its ass within 15 seconds collosus was down lol just imangine if aken bosch had done that he would or really scared the alliance hehe that's wha i would of done if it had been me!


Posted by BlackDove on 11-26-2002 06:47 PM:

Actually only one Deimos with 1 (or was it two?) BFGreens is enough for a Sathanas...just put the Deimos to get on top of the Sathanas or inbetween the Sathanas' tentacles...

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