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Posted by Alphakiller on 11-04-2002 06:19 PM:

[url=http://mods.firstones.com/homeworld/gan.shtml]U have no honor![/url]

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Posted by TriX on 11-05-2002 12:38 AM:

LoL I didn't join XS, and I didn't ban you Croc. NaZz did. And you didn't kick my ass ever. I still want my 1 on 1 alligator. But I'm not coming back to this forum, cuz stupid fags like you that suck up to the admins 24-7 and act so adult like when you are really fat ass 12 year olds that suck at Red Faction. ***** you and RFHQ.

Posted by Allan on 11-05-2002 01:06 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Alphakiller
[url=http://mods.firstones.com/homeworld/gan.shtml]U have no honor![/url]

That r0x!

Posted by The_Croc on 11-05-2002 06:09 AM:

Oh gee so sorry your running buddy was scared you were going to lose and banned me until he realized id keep coming back on my 56k and shut teh server down sound about right? When I first got banned frags were 12-11 me :P No caps either side..odd how teh second I went up a cap I got banned isnt it. LOL you still chickened out as you didnt try to make him stop now did you?

Um XS Lawnmower = TriX

Gee that was hard

Posted by Allan on 11-05-2002 03:13 PM:

XS vs +PLuS+ Map-Warlords

2 PLuS lag out for about 5 min so its 5v3. Scores are about even then a PLuS rejoins and they win the map Finally CarN leaves in disgust about the fact they cant win 5v3 and 5v4

We were told TriX wasnt there but we all know he prolly was just wif another tag

Posted by MRDTS on 11-05-2002 04:11 PM:

Rf 1.30 still got modder in it

well what i found out is not true 1.30 patch is not mod free
come on i went on the other day two modder were rapiding
ultra fast i got kill in 2 second from a pistol and a other weapon
i think 1.30 is still got modder that are using rapiding and myth

Posted by The_Croc on 11-05-2002 04:40 PM:

1 thing the patch never fixed was rf's buggy coding so rapid fire joysitcks and or mice still work Plus some people can click mad fast. But what you will not see is any trainers or mods run unless its serverside

Posted by Allan on 11-05-2002 10:35 PM:

Re: Rf 1.30 still got modder in it

quote:
Originally posted by MRDTS
well what i found out is not true 1.30 patch is not mod free
come on i went on the other day two modder were rapiding
ultra fast i got kill in 2 second from a pistol and a other weapon
i think 1.30 is still got modder that are using rapiding and myth

Geeez man think about what u just said. Show me some1 who m0dz... Double click is not a mod (it is a cheat) neither is rapid fire joypads (still is a cheat) a m0d is not a cheat it just can be used to cheat. 1.3 stops m0dz (unless done in the proper way ie Hive)

If you can find a m0dd3r, who is an obvious m0dder then point him our way. (He shoots to fast, he ownz me to much, he kills me to fast and i cant kill him does not mean its a m0d) Show us an obvious m0dd3r like some1 who can fly in 1.3. If you can theres still $50 in it for you and since 1.3 has been released no1 has collected that $50 so unless there stupid (then they wouldnt beable 2 break 1.3 anyway) they are no m0dd3rs in 1.3.

Any1 who tells you hes a programmer and broke 1.3 is also a liar. No1 who has the expertise to break 1.3 would use such a vague discription of his skillz and if some1 does claime such a thing ask him how he did it. If he says he cant tell you cuz then every1 could break 1.3 then hes talking more BS. If he knew how he would know he could tell you how and you still wouldnt beable to do it unless he gave u a diagram

Posted by Joey_21 on 11-11-2002 08:56 PM:

Re: Re: Rf 1.30 still got modder in it

quote:
Originally posted by Allan

Double click is not a mod (it is a cheat) neither is rapid fire joypads (still is a cheat) a m0d is not a cheat it just can be used to cheat.

I disagree with this. It's not cheating, it's a "feature" since it's not hard to do and everybody can do it. It requires no editing of any RF files.

The only way for everyone to stop thinking it's a cheat is to stop buying all them cheap-o mice. Spend some good money on a mouse that will last you a while with 4 buttons and optical sensory movement instead of getting those 2 button-piece-of-junk ball-using cheap-o's that have to be cleaned every so often and have to be replaced every so often.

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Posted by The_Croc on 11-12-2002 07:24 AM:

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Originally posted by Joey_21

I disagree with this. It's not cheating, it's a "feature" since it's not hard to do and everybody can do it. It requires no editing of any RF files.

The only way for everyone to stop thinking it's a cheat is to stop buying all them cheap-o mice. Spend some good money on a mouse that will last you a while with 4 buttons and optical sensory movement instead of getting those 2 button-piece-of-junk ball-using cheap-o's that have to be cleaned every so often and have to be replaced every so often.

I guess we know you double click. FYI I have the original Intellimouse Explorer 5 buttons in all its glory and double click and rapid fire joysticks is lame and is a cheat flat out. The game wasnt intended for people to use it so its a cheat nuff said.

Edit: The only people who seem to think it isnt a cheat are those that use it....Odd dont you think?

Posted by SubZ on 11-12-2002 09:54 AM:

quote:
I disagree with this. It's not cheating, it's a "feature" since it's not hard to do and everybody can do it. It requires no editing of any RF files.

what about trainers. is that just a "feature" too? its not hard to do and everybody can do it. also requires no editing of any RF files.
trainers gives you infinite ammo, double click makes you shoot twice as fast. no doubt both are cheating.

also if everyone was using double click it would ruin the weapon balance.

Posted by Joey_21 on 11-12-2002 04:00 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by The_Croc

I guess we know you double click. FYI I have the original Intellimouse Explorer 5 buttons in all its glory and double click and rapid fire joysticks is lame and is a cheat flat out. The game wasnt intended for people to use it so its a cheat nuff said.

Edit: The only people who seem to think it isnt a cheat are those that use it....Odd dont you think?

But what I've been saying is that if everybody would get a double-clicking mouse then nobody would consider it a cheat anymore and everybody could do it thus making everybody equal.

Posted by The_Croc on 11-12-2002 08:12 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Joey_21

But what I've been saying is that if everybody would get a double-clicking mouse then nobody would consider it a cheat anymore and everybody could do it thus making everybody equal.

So what you are saying if everyone cheats then nobody is cheating? And no its not equal, Subz is right Double click and rapid fire make the PR WAY too powerful. I remember this player Dog Food used to use rapid fire on his joystick, could empty a PR round yes thats 20 shots in about the time I could get off 3 or 4 shots, now Im pretty comparable to the faster clickers. Funny thing is, Ive noticed hes not using rapid fire anymore and hence his game is about 1/4 what it was. All because he actually has to click now.

Just like 2 wrongs dont make a right. Everyone cheating doesnt make it not cheating.

BTW you can make yourself feel like you arent cheating however you want but when push comes to shove you are obviously trying to rationalize it to yourself as not cheating. And you want everyone to go get new mice. Well go buy them one, some people like the default POS mice with no double clcik support. Just because you dont liek something doesnt mean everyone must agree.

in closing, any respectable players will say double clicking and rapid fire are cheats flat out.

Posted by Allan on 11-13-2002 12:35 AM:

All the players who can beat you who dont use double click to gain an unfair advantage.... do you really want them to use double click to

So if i messed wif my rf files so it would make my PR do double damage and give myself only 10 bullets. In your opinion this would be cheating? Its true i would be m0dd1ng to gain a more powerful gun but im only doing what your mouse is doing for you

Also just say i bought a mouse wif a built in aimbot... LoL! In your mind this shouldnt be cheating. As long as they sell it in the shops? So if we were playing multi player on say the PS2 and i used an explorer card to give me invincabilty its not cheating? Every1 can buy that... Hey if thats the way online gaming goes then there will be no point in online gaming

Posted by Joey_21 on 11-13-2002 04:53 PM:

Hahah, look at me, i'm cheating!!!!! And so is more than half every other player on the RF multi!!!! There are more speed clickers than you think and I realized that and made the decision to even up the odds by doing it myself. And just because I have a double click doesn't mean I use it often. My weapon of choice is the HMG when possible and use the pistol or whatever as a last resort (because, lets face it, the pistol is just too damn easy to dodge) .

Posted by Allan on 11-13-2002 05:27 PM:

Yeah and what if them speed clickers really have skill and can fire that fast? That would make you one of the lamest players in the game Wif double click u spawn wif a pistol which is already better than my best gun. Is that fair? Im pretty sure after 1 game wif me u will be yelling OMG cheating f4g, wont u you seem to be that type

Posted by The_Croc on 11-13-2002 07:19 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Joey_21
Hahah, look at me, i'm cheating!!!!! And so is more than half every other player on the RF multi!!!! There are more speed clickers than you think and I realized that and made the decision to even up the odds by doing it myself. And just because I have a double click doesn't mean I use it often. My weapon of choice is the HMG when possible and use the pistol or whatever as a last resort (because, lets face it, the pistol is just too damn easy to dodge) .

Hey Joey so whats yer RF game name? LOL learning how to click fast doesnt take long. Maybe a week, I can empty a PR in roughly 3 seconds and I know there are a few faster then me. Double click on a slow clicker is easy to spot. Oh gee only two shots at a time. Its sad how paranoid you are. And seriously, when your backup weapon is a HMG...well we all know what we call double clickers who alt weapon is a HMG

Posted by Hunter83 on 11-13-2002 07:36 PM:

I'd just like to say that double clicking IS cheating.

I used it for about 2-4 games when it was first known u could do it. It improved my game far too much (an oddity, since most players suck anyways it worsens their game )

But yeah, it's cheating.

And also, in ur mind, is it ok to triple click? Quadruple click? Use a joystick button?

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Posted by The_Croc on 11-13-2002 07:46 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Hunter83
I'd just like to say that double clicking IS cheating.

I used it for about 2-4 games when it was first known u could do it. It improved my game far too much (an oddity, since most players suck anyways it worsens their game )

But yeah, it's cheating.

And also, in ur mind, is it ok to triple click? Quadruple click? Use a joystick button?

LOL @ Hunter. I want to play this guy and Ill set my mouse to 20x click and we shall see if he thinks its cheating then. Not to mention one thing double clicking helps with is when you glitch. LOL I wonder how many rockts I could glitch off with 20x clicking

Posted by Allan on 11-13-2002 08:35 PM:

20x? Why dont u use a rail or a sniper rifle instead? :P 4x or 5x would be kosha :P

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