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Posted by DOC on 10-30-2001 06:08 PM:

a bunch of beams

What do you think about this?

http://www.strategyplanet.com/hwshots/shots/shota259.jpg

Nononono I don't mean the Sharlins but look at those beams... Those look way better than the original TBP Sharlin beams (the original ones looking too much like a one-color-used-only) IMHO.

And here nice looking Omega beams:

http://www.strategyplanet.com/hwshots/shots/shota649.jpg

There were some talks about the color of the warlock's main beams and someone suggested orangish... well what about this? Looks kinda good to me:

http://www.strategyplanet.com/hwshots/shots/shota365.jpg

Comments? TBP Staff?

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Posted by Pirk on 10-30-2001 10:30 PM:

Um....I don't notice much difference in the Sharlins beams.
The Omega beams look very nice. I love it.
I can't say much about the Warlocks beams. I would have to see how does it look in the game. More than just one picture.

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Posted by hansioux on 10-30-2001 11:12 PM:

Those actually runs?

I remember the actual Homeworld models to be really low
detailed. Those looked a bit too detailed to me. Besides,
50 Omegas flying in a sphere?.... I don't like that image.
I always picture Omegas to be the same as the carriers
in Homeworld.

However, even their sharlin looks less detailed, I do like
the fact that from the front, they look ... "fatter" than the
TBP's sharlin, which is how I remembered in the show.
The TBP sharlins looks way too thin from the front.......

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Posted by DOC on 10-31-2001 01:33 PM:

Opinions anyone?

The Sharlin beams in that pic have the outer, more transparent part and the inner bright green part (far less transparent). I know the TBP Sharlin beams DO have that effect also but it could be stronger so also when viewed from greater distances you could see it. It's the same thing with the Omega beams; plain red doesn't look all that nice. There should be some "texture" in it.

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Posted by Eternal One on 10-31-2001 01:53 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by DOC
Opinions anyone?

The Sharlin beams in that pic have the outer, more transparent part and the inner bright green part (far less transparent). I know the TBP Sharlin beams DO have that effect also but it could be stronger so also when viewed from greater distances you could see it....

That's because those beams are based on the beam look from the actual series itself. We have 2 families of Minbari beams, Neutron and Fusion. Neutron is the one that follows "In the Beginning", Fusion follow the series and "And the Sky Full of Stars". Currently only Neutrons has sufficient graphics while Fusions aren't finished, thus in the demo release Fusions uses the same graphics as Neutrons.

Which beam weapon looks look better, that's something that everybody has an own opinion...I like more the looks of the show like you, some people like ItB's. But nevertheless, don't compare our demo release beams to those ones. They aren't even supposed to look the same.

Posted by FSF Ashrak on 10-31-2001 02:18 PM:

well i don't think u will make beatiful shadob beams cause shadow beams heve some black stains on them and iv never seen it in FS2

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Posted by CptWhite on 10-31-2001 07:07 PM:

hey knw mind if i take over the beams creation area?

some of these well known beams i am going to try my own hand at. no offence kmn but i think i can improve on yours if i know what they look like do you mind ?

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Posted by Triggy on 10-31-2001 08:48 PM:

I always find it funny watching sci-fi debates about how lasers ought to look because IRL you wouldn't see a thing unless you were directly in line with the laser, saw the resulting damage or were firing it through a gas cloud.

Of course shows can't do this because space combat scenes would look stupid, just seeing things randomly blow up in silence!!!

I'm not criticising these discussions because they are relevant to the game/show, it just makes me laugh

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Posted by haderak on 10-31-2001 10:32 PM:

Trigy is right. Eve in star wars tie fighters fired laser blasters like plasma pulse canons. we have to forgive the authors they have good intentions, they wast us to see the full efect of destruction!!!

Posted by IceFire on 11-01-2001 03:47 AM:

Those beams we made are direct from ITB screen captures. So they are pretty much as close to the real show stuff as we can possibly get.

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well i don't think u will make beatiful shadob beams cause shadow beams heve some black stains on them and iv never seen it in FS2

Thats because FS2 beams are pitifully small in bitmap size and the bitmap is stretched across a huge repeating plane.

Up the bitmap size and you can get more detail into your beams. At this point, there is no need for that with the Minbari beams, but when we go further into the depths of detail, we can look at that.

Again, its in FS2, its not like were breaking new ground here.

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