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Posted by Alphakiller on 10-26-2001 01:49 AM:

um, joystick doesn't work well with FS2? What kind of crack are you smoking?

I use a Wingman Extreme Digital 3D, I had very good experiences with my old Sidewinder until it died. :sniff:

I'd say stay away from Saitek's Cyborg 3D - I had to RMA 3 of those suckers. Lame.

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Posted by Fedaykin on 10-26-2001 07:37 AM:

Unhappy Gotta play with a joystick

I'm currently playing FS2 with a mouse - it sucks!

Can't wait to get my Wingman Force setup again - there's nothing like losing your target when ya hit afterburner

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Posted by pera on 10-26-2001 08:04 AM:

Hmph, guess im the only one then. But seriously, with a good key setup dogfighting is WAY easier with a keyboard, and mouse is a must for long range "sniping", I mean, can anyone of you hit a nial at 800 meters with your joysticks. I do have a joystick myself and I do use it for flight sims but IMHO keyboard&mouse are better for fs2.

BTW you should see me flying in multiplayer, guess who has the best hitting percentage....


Posted by Fedaykin on 10-26-2001 10:48 AM:

I'll grant you the sniping point, I jump to the mouse for that also.

pera, what is your KB setup? I am finding that I simply can't keep my target in firing position with a mouse - I can't keep up. I find I have to put some distance on and then re-engage - works against PC but don't work to good against real pilots.

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Posted by pera on 10-26-2001 11:03 AM:

Yeah, its almost impossible to play only with the mouse. I use arrow keys for up, down, left, right movement, and Numpad 1 and 3 for banking. I use the keyboard normally and mouse only at long range.


Posted by Fedaykin on 10-26-2001 11:33 AM:

KB setup

pera cheers, I'll try remapping some keys and give it a go. What does banking do? - remember I'm a joysticker...before you rubbish me

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Posted by Alphakiller on 10-26-2001 07:32 PM:

:cough: I was the TIE Fighter sniper of doom in XvT - with my Sidewinder. A quality 'stick and a light hand on the controls, and I can hit damn near anything at any range.

Oh yeah...a very small deadzone (smallest your joystick will let you use effectively) is key. If your deadzone is like 20% then no, you're not getting anywhere

Believe me - saying mouse and keyboard is better than kb/stick is like people saying CS is better with a trackball. For 90% of the world, "It just ain't so"...

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Posted by pera on 10-26-2001 07:34 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Alphakiller
:cough: I was the TIE Fighter sniper of doom in XvT - with my Sidewinder. A quality 'stick and a light hand on the controls, and I can hit damn near anything at any range.

Oh yeah...a very small deadzone (smallest your joystick will let you use effectively) is key. If your deadzone is like 20% then no, you're not getting anywhere

Believe me - saying mouse and keyboard is better than kb/stick is like people saying CS is better with a trackball. For 90% of the world, "It just ain't so"...



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Posted by pera on 10-26-2001 07:37 PM:

Re: KB setup

quote:
Originally posted by Fedaykin
pera cheers, I'll try remapping some keys and give it a go. What does banking do? - remember I'm a joysticker...before you rubbish me


Umm... I really don't know how to explain this in english, but......
Ok, it turns you ship around, not up or down or left or right, AROUND. I hope you understood something.

And BTW it says "bank left/right" in FS2:s control menu.


Posted by Triggy on 10-26-2001 09:08 PM:

Bank AKA roll. If you take an axis from directly behind you to directly in front of you then you roll around this axis.

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Posted by pera on 10-27-2001 07:00 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Triggy
Bank AKA roll. If you take an axis from directly behind you to directly in front of you then you roll around this axis.


Thanks, thats the word, ROLL, right.


Posted by Hudzy on 10-27-2001 07:01 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by pera
Hmph, guess im the only one then. But seriously, with a good key setup dogfighting is WAY easier with a keyboard, and mouse is a must for long range "sniping", I mean, can anyone of you hit a nial at 800 meters with your joysticks. I do have a joystick myself and I do use it for flight sims but IMHO keyboard&mouse are better for fs2.

BTW you should see me flying in multiplayer, guess who has the best hitting percentage....



I can hit a Nial at 800m with my SideWinder Precision Pro.
Not all the time, but quite a lot of the time.
It all depends on how you set your sensitivity and deadzone options.


Posted by Triggy on 10-28-2001 08:39 AM:

What do you set them to for amximum performance?

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