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Originally posted by CptWhite:
Think again my confused little friends, All abuse should be directed accordingly

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I'd have to agree with the 300m measurement for the Sharlin. According to B5tech's size essay on the Sharlin, they scaled a pic that had a window and Delenn to about a 300m length for the Sharlin. That would make it as big as a modern aircraft carrier. I'd think that plenty large enough to carry out whatever functions that are needed of it. If it were 1600m (like B5Tech says) it would be much larger than even the largest stationary buildings in existence today. 300m for the Sharlin is a good measurement.

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No way! Sharlin is at least 1500 meters long.

300 meters fora carrier? although i'm not american and we british have smaller carrier - when you say carrier everyone thinks of the american nimitz ( ok that spelling is highly questionable but you know what i mean ) carriers and they are longer than 300 meters - they are huge

and also there are more people out there stating what they personally believe about the manuervablity etc of the sharlin where i would say there are very few facts available at all

and that whoever said that they would toast each other (sharlin + warlock) is probally right and that is would come donw to the situation they were in to descide who would win

i've never seena sharlin firing fm its rear arc so i personally think they might have a serious flaw there unless someone can point out an epsiode in which it is seen firing from the rear arc

[This message has been edited by KillMeNow (edited 03-11-2001).]

oh ok maybe not that much more than 300m but i'm sure spaceships are bigger

The sharlin might be 300 meters long but the sharlin favours the tallness of the ship not how long it is
so the sharlin is
300 meter long
1200-1600 meters tall

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"Im not here to argue Im here to be an idiot" Bishop

your saying its 4 or 5 times taller than it is long? maybe 1.5 times taller than it is long

I may get flamed for this, but I think a Vree Xill class saucer is even stronger than an Omega (although I love the Omega and I know it's pretty powerful, however I love the Xill as well) since it's much faster and much much more manouvreable; as for its weaponry, I think antimatter cannons are more powerful than any weapon on the omega, and it got 15 of those.
That some league-races aint got a strong military doesnt mean that they aren't more advanced. The Vree are definitely more advanced than us cause right now they fly around in space abducting some of us.
The Hyach are also much more advanced than humans, but they dont emphasize on their military whcis is why they are considered weak.

Kuba

I would like to post some pictures here how do I do it?

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Originally posted by Kuba:
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Now, if it really just comes down to Sharlin vs. Warlock, the Sharlin wins because it's more manouvreable, much faster, and got more firepower, and what is more important, higher range (those are facts).

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Well this is Mr Bungles opinion, he asked me to post for him as his pass aint working at the moment ...as follows............

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"I have one little question to ask - does anyone remember the Bab 5 episode where the rogue Sharlin threatened the station?

If so, do you remember how the Sharlin sent by the Minbari gvmt attacked the rogue ship, it's beams easily cutting through the others hull?

As an extension of this logic - we have a Warlock, with equally powerful beam, and it would have no effect? Think again my confused little friends, the two would fry each other... only circumstantial factors could tip the balance."

All abuse should be directed accordingly

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Originally posted by Mungrel:
Where did these facts come frome ?
No way a sharlin is more manouvreable, has more fire power. Most of the tech came from the shadows and I suppose ya think the minbari are more powerfull than
them too!

Even the omega's can out manouvre those big bloody things. Just saying these are the fact's, doesn't make them so.

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Sharlin can't be less than one kilometer long, becouse even Omega is 1700 meters long but not as tall.

Please! The damned Whitestar is 470 meters long, and thus the Sharlin is MUCH larger.

It's 1600 meters, end of discussion.

And the Warlock ONLY had Shadow tech in it's computer systems. No Shadow armour, engines, or weapons, ok?

And where does it say the Whitestar is 470 meters long??? It's more like 250-300 meters long, and for the Sharlin, it measures quite the same in length and in height, or see for yourself!
[url="http://gamma.nic.fi/~mpetays/b5/small_lq.jpg"]http://gamma.nic.fi/~mpetays/b5/small_lq.jpg[/url]

That's when it's scaled with B5. That is what I'd think would be a CGI error.
If the Omega was 1700m long, the rotating section would be ridiculously large. It would be larger than most anything in existence today.
I'm working on a scratchbuilt Omega model, so I already have the thing scaled. If the OCD were 1717.3m long (like B5tech claims), the rotating section would be about 390m high.
390m roughly translates into 1,248 feet. Allowing for armour, and putting one deck at 10 feet (for simplicity-8 feet of deck and 2 feet of crawlspace) that would be 124 stories.
I don't think that a crew of 1,000 would have to complain about room of there were less than ten licing quarters per floor.
I rest my case.

VCD is 2500m - 3000m long, if the VCD is only about 1700 meters it's then smaller than Warlock and it's not.

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Originally posted by DOC:
And where does it say the Whitestar is 470 meters long??? It's more like 250-300 meters long, and for the Sharlin, it measures quite the same in length and in height, or see for yourself!
[url="http://gamma.nic.fi/~mpetays/b5/small_lq.jpg"]http://gamma.nic.fi/~mpetays/b5/small_lq.jpg[/url]

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Originally posted by Kuba:
Again someone who ignores facts.

The Warlock has shadow computer systems and sensors but NOT propulsion or engine system (and NO shadow armor yet). Every gravimetric drive makes a ship damn manouvreable, and the Sharlin is no exception. The weaponry, well I already listed it for the sharlin, but I'll give you exact numbers later, I have to go to school now.

Kuba

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Originally posted by Kuba:
That scale pic is pure bullsh!t, compared to the Omega, the Xill, Vorlon, Shadow and Minbari cruisers should be a lot larger!

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