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Posted by Weyoun_TDB on 07-12-2002 12:22 AM:

What is the point in the Hades class Destroyer? (And why is the Sobek so powerful??)

The Hades: It's USELESS!

Seriously, when I've pitted it against other ships in my missions, it always dies, and hardly fires at all. It has so few beam cannons.


and the Sobek? Way too heavily armoured. I've pitted it against a Hecate before, 1 on 1, and the Sobek won! And they were FACING each other to begin with, I mean surely the Hecate can destroy this thing??

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Posted by Weyoun_TDB on 07-12-2002 12:22 AM:

What is the point in the Hades class Destroyer? (And why is the Sobek so powerful??)

The Hades: It's USELESS!

Seriously, when I've pitted it against other ships in my missions, it always dies, and hardly fires at all. It has so few beam cannons.


and the Sobek? Way too heavily armoured. I've pitted it against a Hecate before, 1 on 1, and the Sobek won! And they were FACING each other to begin with, I mean surely the Hecate can destroy this thing??

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Posted by Slasher on 07-12-2002 12:33 AM:

The Hades was originally featured in the Silent Threat expansion pack for FreeSpace 1. Back in an age where beam cannons were nonexistent it could hold its own provided the destroyer's engines didn't get hit. Its FreeSpace 2 reincarnation sports similar weaponry, only with two BGreens where a different type of turret went. In other words, it was really never meant to see the year 2367.

The Hecate fares poorly in capital ship combat more often than not. You seem to think that the Hecate has substantual forward firepower; this is somewhat true, although it's BGreen (it's most powerful weapon - the strait firing green beam) takes 30 seconds to recharge while the Sobek's two forward orange slashers take 10 seconds to recharge and deal out a heavy amount of damage themselves. The Hecate really needs fighter support when it comes to capital ship engagements. Even with cruisers a Hecate cannot walk away without taking moderate damage without fighter cover.


Posted by Slasher on 07-12-2002 12:33 AM:

The Hades was originally featured in the Silent Threat expansion pack for FreeSpace 1. Back in an age where beam cannons were nonexistent it could hold its own provided the destroyer's engines didn't get hit. Its FreeSpace 2 reincarnation sports similar weaponry, only with two BGreens where a different type of turret went. In other words, it was really never meant to see the year 2367.

The Hecate fares poorly in capital ship combat more often than not. You seem to think that the Hecate has substantual forward firepower; this is somewhat true, although it's BGreen (it's most powerful weapon - the strait firing green beam) takes 30 seconds to recharge while the Sobek's two forward orange slashers take 10 seconds to recharge and deal out a heavy amount of damage themselves. The Hecate really needs fighter support when it comes to capital ship engagements. Even with cruisers a Hecate cannot walk away without taking moderate damage without fighter cover.


Posted by Admiral LSD on 07-12-2002 07:38 AM:

Re: What is the point in the Hades class Destroyer? (And why is the Sobek so powerful??)

quote:
Originally posted by Weyoun_TDB
The Hades: It's USELESS!


You've never played the last mission in Silent Threat have you?

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Posted by Admiral LSD on 07-12-2002 07:38 AM:

Re: What is the point in the Hades class Destroyer? (And why is the Sobek so powerful??)

quote:
Originally posted by Weyoun_TDB
The Hades: It's USELESS!


You've never played the last mission in Silent Threat have you?

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Posted by Brando on 07-12-2002 07:49 AM:

that thing was damn near unkillable. thank [v] for time compression...

which reminds me, tomorrow i re-install FS2

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Posted by Brando on 07-12-2002 07:49 AM:

that thing was damn near unkillable. thank [v] for time compression...

which reminds me, tomorrow i re-install FS2

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Posted by Admiral LSD on 07-12-2002 08:14 AM:

I was able to kill it without time compression but not until I traded the default Ulysses fighter for an Ursa loaded to the brim with Harbingers.

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Posted by Weyoun_TDB on 07-12-2002 09:27 AM:

Re: Re: What is the point in the Hades class Destroyer? (And why is the Sobek so powerful??)

quote:
Originally posted by Admiral LSD


You've never played the last mission in Silent Threat have you?



I have it in front of me, but unfortunately, Silent Threat wont install on my system

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Posted by Weyoun_TDB on 07-12-2002 09:27 AM:

Re: Re: What is the point in the Hades class Destroyer? (And why is the Sobek so powerful??)

quote:
Originally posted by Admiral LSD


You've never played the last mission in Silent Threat have you?



I have it in front of me, but unfortunately, Silent Threat wont install on my system

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Posted by BabProj Team on 07-12-2002 02:16 PM:

The Hades was a Terran SD Lucifer basically. Built by the GTI and using Shivan technology. Go read the techroom in FS2. They mention the Hades Rebellion. Shivan technology like that was banned afterwards.

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Posted by IceFire on 07-12-2002 02:16 PM:

The Hades was a Terran SD Lucifer basically. Built by the GTI and using Shivan technology. Go read the techroom in FS2. They mention the Hades Rebellion. Shivan technology like that was banned afterwards.

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Posted by F S W on 07-12-2002 07:01 PM:

Re: Re: Re: What is the point in the Hades class Destroyer? (And why is the Sobek so powerful??)

quote:
Originally posted by Weyoun_TDB


I have it in front of me, but unfortunately, Silent Threat wont install on my system



I wouldn't mind having it.
I used to be a member of Tokra.

The Hades never shoots and the Hecate it just plain rubbish.


Posted by F S W on 07-12-2002 07:01 PM:

Re: Re: Re: What is the point in the Hades class Destroyer? (And why is the Sobek so powerful??)

quote:
Originally posted by Weyoun_TDB


I have it in front of me, but unfortunately, Silent Threat wont install on my system



I wouldn't mind having it.
I used to be a member of Tokra.

The Hades never shoots and the Hecate it just plain rubbish.


Posted by GalacticEmperor on 07-12-2002 10:39 PM:

Re: Re: Re: What is the point in the Hades class Destroyer? (And why is the Sobek so powerful??)

quote:
Originally posted by Weyoun_TDB


I have it in front of me, but unfortunately, Silent Threat wont install on my system



I bet you have the OEM version of FS1. Go through the files and make sure they're not write-protected, then try to install it again.

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Posted by GalacticEmperor on 07-12-2002 10:39 PM:

Re: Re: Re: What is the point in the Hades class Destroyer? (And why is the Sobek so powerful??)

quote:
Originally posted by Weyoun_TDB


I have it in front of me, but unfortunately, Silent Threat wont install on my system



I bet you have the OEM version of FS1. Go through the files and make sure they're not write-protected, then try to install it again.

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Posted by Weyoun_TDB on 07-13-2002 09:46 AM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: What is the point in the Hades class Destroyer? (And why is the Sobek so powerful??)

quote:
Originally posted by GalacticEmperor


I bet you have the OEM version of FS1. Go through the files and make sure they're not write-protected, then try to install it again.

I got a boxed version with FS1 and silent threat. It was like a special edition a year ago or so.

anyway, i lost disk 2 to FS1 so now I'll never know anyway =)

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Posted by Weyoun_TDB on 07-13-2002 09:46 AM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: What is the point in the Hades class Destroyer? (And why is the Sobek so powerful??)

quote:
Originally posted by GalacticEmperor


I bet you have the OEM version of FS1. Go through the files and make sure they're not write-protected, then try to install it again.

I got a boxed version with FS1 and silent threat. It was like a special edition a year ago or so.

anyway, i lost disk 2 to FS1 so now I'll never know anyway =)

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sometimes i find myself blind; at first i cannot see, and then i see it's me - no doubt
vorta are immune to most poisons... it comes in handy when you're a diplomat - weyoun 5, ds9
i'm really gonna miss you gurs yeah..... you too - daniel and colonel o'neill

Freespace: Destiny's Destruction
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Posted by Weyoun_TDB on 07-13-2002 09:46 AM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: What is the point in the Hades class Destroyer? (And why is the Sobek so powerful??)

quote:
Originally posted by F S W


I wouldn't mind having it.
I used to be a member of Tokra.

The Hades never shoots and the Hecate it just plain rubbish.



Then I'll give you the ST disk.

now what was your name as my underling in Tok'ra?

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