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Posted by Kazan on 04-13-2002 04:55 PM:

ATTN: Get your input into the new FreeSpace 2 Engine- FreeSpace Forever

An Open Source Project to design a new engine for FreeSpace 2 has begun.. currently we're publically brainstorming

general brainstorming: http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=114820

Ideas for POF Version 3000 (FS2=2117)
[some things applicable to TBP already in there]
http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=114850

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Posted by Kazan on 04-13-2002 04:55 PM:

ATTN: Get your input into the new FreeSpace 2 Engine- FreeSpace Forever

An Open Source Project to design a new engine for FreeSpace 2 has begun.. currently we're publically brainstorming

general brainstorming: http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=114820

Ideas for POF Version 3000 (FS2=2117)
[some things applicable to TBP already in there]
http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=114850

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Posted by IceFire on 04-13-2002 05:23 PM:

Player controlled beams, beam effective range (ie. only does max damage to a certain distance), I think someone mentioned running lights, alternate mission ending methods (triggerable or toggleable). More control over ambient lighting, sun colors, etc.

Definable warp.pof's

Procedural textures is probably a bit much...but add it to the shopping list.

If you can pull this off...that'll be pretty impressive....but I have my doubts. Nonetheless, good luck.

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Posted by BabProj Team on 04-13-2002 05:23 PM:

Player controlled beams, beam effective range (ie. only does max damage to a certain distance), I think someone mentioned running lights, alternate mission ending methods (triggerable or toggleable). More control over ambient lighting, sun colors, etc.

Definable warp.pof's

Procedural textures is probably a bit much...but add it to the shopping list.

If you can pull this off...that'll be pretty impressive....but I have my doubts. Nonetheless, good luck.

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Posted by Mr. Fury on 04-13-2002 05:48 PM:

I'm not going to say add this add that, but instead:

If you can put the best abilities and features of I-War2, I've Found Her B5 Freeware and Freespace2 engines into one neat engine, I'll be more than surprised.

I already suggested of contacting IFH-team and asking for help, they have experience.

Good luck!

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Posted by Mr. Fury on 04-13-2002 05:48 PM:

I'm not going to say add this add that, but instead:

If you can put the best abilities and features of I-War2, I've Found Her B5 Freeware and Freespace2 engines into one neat engine, I'll be more than surprised.

I already suggested of contacting IFH-team and asking for help, they have experience.

Good luck!

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Posted by Zeronet on 04-13-2002 05:49 PM:

More control over Hangers would be something .

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Posted by Skullar on 04-13-2002 06:06 PM:

colored commanims.

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Posted by zoobafoo on 04-13-2002 06:45 PM:

newtonian physics would be a nice touch.and beams for the players fighter.

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Posted by ApaBaBooN on 04-13-2002 06:50 PM:

Yeah... And absolutely every ship needs gasoline. You ought to make a pit stop on battle at least once. Or in team dogfight you could destroy enemy's gas station

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Posted by ApaBaBooN on 04-13-2002 06:50 PM:

Yeah... And absolutely every ship needs gasoline. You ought to make a pit stop on battle at least once. Or in team dogfight you could destroy enemy's gas station

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Posted by Ashark on 04-13-2002 07:12 PM:

is it gonna be free is it gonna be an update for the original fs2 engine or what?

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Posted by FSF Ashrak on 04-13-2002 07:12 PM:

is it gonna be free is it gonna be an update for the original fs2 engine or what?

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Posted by Xaphod_x on 04-13-2002 09:27 PM:

I guess he means an engine that uses FS2 files, TBL files, POF files ANI files and so on, in the same way that the original FS2 engine does, only with more functionality.
It does actually sound very possible, and I think it's a great idea.

Wish list:

support for advanced models - perhaps called "POF2", allowing animating and shape-morphing models.

The ability to script events more effectively, and the ability to use a specific model to allow a more B5 like hyperspace effect.

Allow the use of animated textures and backgrounds.

Luminosity and specularity maps.

Support for bump-mapping, HT&L, compressed textures, etc.

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Posted by Xaphod_x on 04-13-2002 09:27 PM:

I guess he means an engine that uses FS2 files, TBL files, POF files ANI files and so on, in the same way that the original FS2 engine does, only with more functionality.
It does actually sound very possible, and I think it's a great idea.

Wish list:

support for advanced models - perhaps called "POF2", allowing animating and shape-morphing models.

The ability to script events more effectively, and the ability to use a specific model to allow a more B5 like hyperspace effect.

Allow the use of animated textures and backgrounds.

Luminosity and specularity maps.

Support for bump-mapping, HT&L, compressed textures, etc.

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Posted by CptWhite on 04-13-2002 10:26 PM:

scratch the newtonian physics - its not that much fun imho

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Posted by Londo Molari on 04-13-2002 10:29 PM:

I'm guessing the new engine merely replaces the old 3D graphics engine with a new one, so that it now has support for advanced features like bump mapping, multlayer texturing, shading, curve/smoothing, specular and lighting.

This way people can make good use of their new video cards and systems, which are now considereably better than the what was required for Fs2 originally.

This would help the modding community create models that look better than the ones in Independence War II

I doubt they are changing the gameplay at all...such as newtonian engine and alternate ending thing-a-majiggy... Althought that sounds dandy too.

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Posted by Londo Molari on 04-13-2002 10:29 PM:

I'm guessing the new engine merely replaces the old 3D graphics engine with a new one, so that it now has support for advanced features like bump mapping, multlayer texturing, shading, curve/smoothing, specular and lighting.

This way people can make good use of their new video cards and systems, which are now considereably better than the what was required for Fs2 originally.

This would help the modding community create models that look better than the ones in Independence War II

I doubt they are changing the gameplay at all...such as newtonian engine and alternate ending thing-a-majiggy... Althought that sounds dandy too.

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Posted by Ashark on 04-13-2002 10:43 PM:

i would like to have pics on the side of fighters to be fully customizable and allso the change in theyr size

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Posted by FSF Ashrak on 04-13-2002 10:43 PM:

i would like to have pics on the side of fighters to be fully customizable and allso the change in theyr size

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