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Posted by Mewgen1 on 12-27-2001 01:23 AM:

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Alright I know that this probably isn't the best place to ask about all my OS problems, however you people are about the only people I know that have any decent idea about the system and aren't corparatly affiliated so here goes.

I got Windows XP for christmas(finally) and most of my hardware works fine except my CD-RW and my DVD-rom. MY CD-RW has always been a faithful tool and I would hate to have to replace it now. However The software that came with my computer is not compatible with the XP version of the drivers for it and therefore doesn't read the drive. Also whe I try to follow XP's instructions on how to burn a CD it gives me a message when ever I have a new cd in that reads:"D: not available, invalid function." This of course means that it wont let me burn Cd's and all my old cds are not working(including the ones that I saved TBP to). It still seems to read store bought cd's alright and when I instert one of my backup cds and look at the properties it says the size of the stuff on the disk but it still gives me that damned message.

Now for the DVD player:
The DVD-rom that I have is an old Creative Labs Encore 2x DVD-Rom with a DXr2 decoder card. It is slow but effective and when I upgraded to XP it stopped operating because of some drivers that Xp overwrote. I tried to reinstall the drivers but the disk says that it will only run on Windows 95( an outright lie because I know for a fact that it still worked under 98 SE). I checked the Creative website but there are no Xp drivers or software for the Decoder(where I believe the problem is)

If you have any info or ideas on either subject please post or email me.

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Posted by Alphakiller on 12-27-2001 03:32 AM:

I'd search the Ars Technica Open Forum (find it at arstechnica.com) because I remember seeing a problem like yours in XP before. Try the NT/2000 Mojo forum; search before posting, and you'll probably find it.)

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Posted by Mr. Fury on 12-27-2001 10:59 AM:

I have a bad feeling about this... you did upgrade install right?

NEVER do upgrade install, always do clean installs.
Upgrade install always leaves some bad **** behind from older OS.

Also, I don't know what burner you have but there should be update available for burner software.

DVD drives have native support in WinXP, try installing proper Windows XP Pdrivers, not 9x drivers.

I don't know what to do about mpeg decoder, if XP does not have drivers for it, then you need to take it out and wait for XP drivers. But Windows 2000 drivers should work too, try 'em out, if there's no W2k drivers... then bad luck, seems like creative has forgotten that product then.

Edit: Anyways, I'm happy with my WinXP, I won't switch back to ****ty W98.

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Posted by Ranger1 on 12-27-2001 08:03 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Fury
I have a bad feeling about this... you did upgrade install right?

NEVER do upgrade install, always do clean installs.
Upgrade install always leaves some bad **** behind from older OS.

No sh!t man. I made that mistake the first time I installed XP over ME(not as bad as everyone says it is). ME left all sorts of stuff behind not allowing certain hardware to work correctly. I had to fromat and reinstall XP and now it runs like a dream. To me XP is the only OS worth having. If you did do the upgrade just format the HD and reinstall XP fresh. Once you get XP running correctly you can check out this site for cool tweaks for xp... http://www.tweakxp.com/tweakxp/.

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Posted by Kazan on 12-27-2001 08:23 PM:

first of when i see 'X Problem" i think X (ie X11 r6.6 - Xwindows - the unix GUI layer)

second who drugged you so that you'd purchase Windows eXtra Proprietary

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Posted by IceFire on 12-27-2001 08:32 PM:

Wow Kazan, that wasn't a full Microsoft bash....that was more of a half a bash! We are making improvement! Maybe you'll be able to say nice things about something someday (not expecting anything nice about MS from you, but hey...what can I do).

Reformat. Thats the plan for me. I JUST got XP today, backing up everything to CD, at the moment.

Sooner or later they had to make the jump to a proper OS without all of the legacy support that Win95 has and every other Win9.x system had after that. So its creating some havok at the moment. In a year, most people will be thankful that XP came around because it is alot better than any other WinOS so far (although Win2000 is pretty good in its own right).

Growing pains...thats all.

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Posted by Kazan on 12-27-2001 08:34 PM:

did you know abuot the bug in XP that anyone can root your box with one packet

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Posted by IceFire on 12-27-2001 08:37 PM:

Did you know about the patch?

Who would want to root around in my box? Oh yeah....BWO fanatics

Posted by Ranger1 on 12-27-2001 11:47 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Kazan
second who drugged you so that you'd purchase Windows eXtra Proprietary

Who said anything about purchase?

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Posted by Mr. Fury on 12-28-2001 12:02 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ranger1

Who said anything about purchase?

*krhm* Even though other means are generally used, please do not mention them on public boards.

Posted by IceFire on 12-28-2001 12:50 AM:

Windows XP running fine here. Does everything its supposed to so far.

Posted by Zeronet on 12-28-2001 01:35 AM:

Windows Xp was bundled software with my new computer(got it earlier today ). So really i didnt buy it. Bug? Does someone have a direct link to where i can download the patch?

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Posted by Kazan on 12-29-2001 02:46 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Zeronet
Windows Xp was bundled software with my new computer(got it earlier today ). So really i didnt buy it.

actually you did purchase it - you paid more for your computer to have it already on there

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Posted by IceFire on 12-29-2001 02:52 AM:

Its on all the computers now. Don't listen to Kazan's pessimisim...its a good thing to have.

Use Windows update to get the latest critical updates and bug fixes. Its really easy to use. Its on the start menu.

Posted by Kazan on 12-29-2001 03:07 AM:

it's not pessmissism - it's knowledge of what's really going on

you people are like sheep! he'll lead you over the cliff of dependence and you'll follow him! you'll ruin the world of computing by eliminating competition - software will go to the ****ter

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Posted by JC Denton on 12-29-2001 03:16 AM:

I'm sorry, but I'm with Kazan on the XP-Haters Committee. If what I've read hasn't changed, isn't heXP locked to your computer with some wonky registration system when installed and you can't install it on any other machine afterwards? You see, I am a poor person, and lack the funds to buy an individual copy of an operating system for all four computers in my home (tallies up to about $800 just for the OS that way). That'd really hurt a big corporation that has hundreds of computers needing upgrades, and they may not have the thousands of dollars needed to buy a separate OS for everything they own. Provided the installation lock is still there, of course. (I'm wagering money that it is.)

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Posted by Alphakiller on 12-29-2001 05:18 AM:

cry cry cry. You can't pirate your OS like you're used to; it's never been enforced, and now the fine print is being enforced.

Welcome to Microsoft's anti-piracy attempt. Futile? Probably (can we say XP Corporate...yes we can, Corporate has no WPA)
And corporations, as a rule, do not pirate their OSes because they will get stomped on harshly for it. The home user is a different story. (Also licenses for X copies of Windows XP don't cost $100 each for Home, $200 each for Pro...volume discounting )

However. It's lightyears ahead of any other MS operating system ever, this thing is as big or bigger than the DOS->Windows 95 switch was. Why?
Finally ... NT core!

And this update patch (which you should go get NOW) is available at http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com (there's a redirect at windowsupdate.com as well) ... as are several other things that you probably want.

Now...if we're going to sit here and take potshots at XP, I'd prefer to see facts. Because as it stands, none of you have any . . . or at least haven't posted any.

Oh and Kazan, your last post was hilarious. Ever think that Microsoft has a monopoly for a reason? (Although, when I saw XProblems, I thought of X-windows too. That's kinda funny.)

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Posted by dredhawk on 12-29-2001 05:58 AM:

I dont bother with upgrading my OS its to much of waste off money I just use the same OS that comes with the computer. If i get anther computer what ever OS is on that ill use. I have not Used XP but if its like the other Wins OS there not much differnets that i can tell oh ya theres few new thing here few new thing there. but run Just like Win 95 i runing Win ME becues it came with my AMD Athlon computer i got a few mounths ago. It looks like Win 95 and it work like Win 95

Why do Big Corps need to Upgrade i shure they have better since then to waste there money on something thats no use.

OH well if get a new computer and it has Win XP on it ill use it.

but im not going to a Computer story to buy it.

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Posted by Mewgen1 on 12-29-2001 07:47 AM:

Well after two days of working with Xp I have become a firm believer in its capabilities. All of the conflicts except for the DVD have been reparied and I am now running with only the problem of having to find the cash to by Roxio or figure a way around the trial thingy. EVerthing else awas fixed with a 1 1/2 hour download from windows update.

P.S. I did do the upgrade and it works just fine after a few updates.

P.P.S. Anyone who says XP is a waste f money should come up here where the average temp is about 8 degrees and take a long walk off of a very, very short pier.

P.P.P.S. Thanks for the help.

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Posted by IceFire on 12-29-2001 04:07 PM:

Go Alphakiller. Shed some sanity on some insanity.

quote:
I have not Used XP but if its like the other Wins OS there not much differnets that i can tell oh ya theres few new thing here few new thing there. but run Just like Win 95 i runing Win ME becues it came with my AMD Athlon computer i got a few mounths ago. It looks like Win 95 and it work like Win 95.

Okay, its not like previous OS upgrades. XP is built on an NT core at 32bit rather than the previous 16bit/32bit core the all of the Win9.x's had. So just by doing that, you change the way the operating system works and how well it performs, and its overall for the better. Its not like Win98 or WinME which was a hacked and slashed version of Win95 with a bunch of added features. This is new.

Its alot more stable, its quite a bit faster, and there seem to be a number of enhancements in speed.

Your right that it functions in pretty much the same way, although lets not forget that the default setup includes the new XP theme which totally changes the asthetics of the desktop and interface and how about the totally redesigned start menu (which looks cool, but I turned off because I'm an old time user

).

In any case, take it as you will. Its obvious that different people have different opinions, but make sure you check your facts out regardless of the opinions stated on this board and decide for your own.

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