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Posted by An Inbred Yokel on 11-26-2001 12:50 PM:

Victory Class......Obsolete?

Did anyone else notice, how when it showed us Sheridans death (20? can't remember) 20 years after the second last episode, the ships are NOT Victories, none of them we saw were, I believe, howeve, the ISA was still using a form of White Star (minor modifications I think, saw it a while ago though), and the Victory has either not been fully implemented or was not powerful enough to be useful.

Posted by Skullar on 11-26-2001 01:35 PM:

Or the victory class ships had better things to do.

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Posted by Drahkas on 11-26-2001 02:43 PM:

im sure in 20 years they had found a way to fire thier main guns without having to shut down for a minute... I think they had better things to do also

im sure there wern't very many of them, might not have been one avalible...(and wasn't the movie made after the last episode?)

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Posted by Mr. Fury on 11-26-2001 03:34 PM:

Yup, when B5 episodes were filmed, they didn't have complete Victory model then IIRC.

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Posted by FSF Ashrak on 11-26-2001 03:35 PM:

YES IT WAS AND THOSE MODIFIED WHITESTARS R BLUESTARS whoops caps lock was on

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Posted by IceFire on 11-26-2001 10:04 PM:

BlueStars are MUCH smaller than WhiteStars.

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Posted by A2597 on 11-27-2001 12:01 AM:

READ:

The Bluestar, AKA official name "SnubNose Whitestar" is exactly 52.12 meters long , whereas the whitestar is 475.6 meters long.
(According to the official size charts by Tim Earls).

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Posted by Edwin on 11-27-2001 01:20 AM:

That guy is like your savior or something isn't he?

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Posted by Sigma957 on 11-27-2001 02:27 AM:

Sleeping in light was made for the last episode of season four.JMS did not exspect another season. That particular bluestar was Sheridens personnel ship....

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Posted by IceFire on 11-27-2001 02:46 AM:

It was made at the end of Season 4 because they didn't know if Season 5 would happen. He always had a 5 year arc, but he was forced to condense the arc a bit to fit everything into Season 4 if the show was canned. So Sleeping in Light was filmed so that it would fit wherever.

Posted by LAM3O on 11-27-2001 06:25 AM:

What speeds do you think Whitestars will be doing in freespace2? Give a number if you can.

Posted by Alphakiller on 11-27-2001 05:12 PM:

fast speeds.

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Posted by Mr. Fury on 11-27-2001 05:30 PM:

Perhaps around 80 m/s.

Posted by Starkiller on 11-27-2001 05:37 PM:

That would be nice...

Posted by IceFire on 11-27-2001 08:40 PM:

Probably 80m/s. Its not a really big deal either.

I set at Sharlin at 60m/s and it wasn't rediculously fast. Fighters are still more mobile because they have burners and because they can turn on a dime.

Posted by LAM3O on 11-28-2001 08:22 PM:

80 would be great, does the AI lose control of capships at very high speeds?

Posted by pera on 11-28-2001 08:49 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by LAM3O
80 would be great, does the AI lose control of capships at very high speeds?

Actually, no.

They just look a bit dumb.

Try out making TBP-capships go 200m/s and fighters 400m/s, that's just pure fun

Posted by Mr. Fury on 11-28-2001 08:53 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by LAM3O
80 would be great, does the AI lose control of capships at very high speeds?

No, because AI will think it as a fighter/bomber and behaves correctly.

Edit: Making things a bit easier to understand:
Every ship has a table entry, you can set the ship to be a fighter, bomber, transport, freighter, cruiser, corvette, capital.

Those flags makes it a bit easier to AI behave correctly, Whitestar will be a bomber but not player-flyable. Bluestar will be player-flyable though, so don't worry too much about that.

Posted by JC Denton on 12-01-2001 04:17 AM:

I saw a clip from a Legend of the Rangers commercial on Scifi, and it looks like the Excalibur gets trashed in the movie, since there were a couple of the new alien ships pumping beam fire into her tail. Kinda a shame, I always liked that ship.

BTW, how complete is the White Star model?

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Posted by pera on 12-01-2001 12:15 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by JC Denton
I saw a clip from a Legend of the Rangers commercial on Scifi, and it looks like the Excalibur gets trashed in the movie, since there were a couple of the new alien ships pumping beam fire into her tail. Kinda a shame, I always liked that ship.

BTW, how complete is the White Star model?

Damn, If I just would get Scifi-channel here in finland...

Edit:

I don't think the team even has a Whitestar model, of course there is that "unofficial" one, but they probably won't be using it.

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